[comp.windows.x] X and/or NeWS terminals

wright@hsi.UUCP (Gary Wright) (10/01/88)

Ok, I have seen some discussion about X terminals and have even seen
some actual hardware but I haven't seen much talk about a NeWS
terminal.  Does anyone know of such a beast? A frequent complaint about
NeWS is that it is slow.  Separating the client and server to two
different processors and using SLIP  would seem to be the ideal set up
for NeWS.

I would guess that NeWS would even run better than X in this
configuration because of the smaller amount of data that needs to go
across the link.

This definitely seems they way to go.  A workstation per person is just
overkill (technically and financially) for many applications that could
really benefit from the use of windows.
-- 
Gary Wright 					...!uunet!hsi!wright
Health Systems International                    wright@hsi.uu.net

robert@pvab.UUCP (Robert Claeson) (10/04/88)

In article <178@hsi86.hsi.UUCP>, wright@hsi.UUCP (Gary Wright) writes:

> Ok, I have seen some discussion about X terminals and have even seen
> some actual hardware but I haven't seen much talk about a NeWS
> terminal.  Does anyone know of such a beast?

> I would guess that NeWS would even run better than X in this
> configuration because of the smaller amount of data that needs to go
> across the link.

But... NeWS requires a more powerful processor and more memory than X.

Note: I like NeWS.
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Tel: +46 758-202 50   Fax: +46 758-197 20
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kositch@hpdtl.HP.COM (Dan C. Kositch) (10/05/88)

/ hpdtl:comp.windows.x / wright@hsi.UUCP (Gary Wright) /  2:41 pm  Sep 30, 1988 /
Ok, I have seen some discussion about X terminals and have even seen
some actual hardware but I haven't seen much talk about a NeWS
terminal.  Does anyone know of such a beast? A frequent complaint about
NeWS is that it is slow.  Separating the client and server to two
different processors and using SLIP  would seem to be the ideal set up
for NeWS.

I would guess that NeWS would even run better than X in this
configuration because of the smaller amount of data that needs to go
across the link.

This definitely seems they way to go.  A workstation per person is just
overkill (technically and financially) for many applications that could
really benefit from the use of windows.
-- 
Gary Wright 					...!uunet!hsi!wright
Health Systems International                    wright@hsi.uu.net
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wm@ogccse.ogc.edu (Wm Leler) (10/10/88)

>> Ok, I have seen some discussion about X terminals and have even seen
>> some actual hardware but I haven't seen much talk about a NeWS
>> terminal.  Does anyone know of such a beast?
>
>> I would guess that NeWS would even run better than X in this
>> configuration because of the smaller amount of data that needs to go
>> across the link.

There are some people at Queen Mary College (part of University
College of London? -- in the UK) that are working on an
inexpensive NeWS terminal.  Their hardware is transputer based,
not for the parallelism, per se, but for the raw speed, low cost,
and other advantages of the transputer.  They want to make it
cheap enough so that one might buy it for home and run it over
a 2400 baud phone line, but it also includes ethernet.

William Roberts at QMC also has an archive of interesting NeWS
and PostScript software.  He was the original author of the
"eye that tracks the mouse position" demo (among other things).

Of course, any workstation that runs NeWS could be used as a
NeWS terminal (such as a Sun, Cogent XTM, Silicon Graphics
workstation, or Mac II) and given the continual decrease in
the price of workstations (well, with the exception of the
Mac :-), that might be a pretty good option soon.

wm

irf@kuling.UUCP (Bo Thide) (10/12/88)

In article <1811@ogccse.ogc.edu> wm@ogccse.UUCP (Wm Leler) writes:
>>> Ok, I have seen some discussion about X terminals and have even seen

GraphOn has a series of hi-res terminals which are said to be usable
as X displays.  We have now 3 GO250 terminals and are egarely awaiting
software from GraphOn to see whether this is true or not.  The GO2xx
series terminals use a quite efficient compress algorithm in order
to increase the effective transfer speed of bitmaps etc.  Max baud
rate is 57600 but the compress trick can increase that by almost
a factor of 10 sometimes.

GO250 is VERY fast. I use mine over a 38400 line to my HP9000/350 without any
problems - no terminfo/termcap delays are necessary.

--Bo


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