Lauren Weinstein <lauren@vortex.UUCP> (07/26/83)
Oh yes! I might add that many of the advantages of "digests" which I mentioned could also be accomplished *without* digests (that is, leaving all messages separate) so long as the verbose newsgroups were at least *moderated*. In this case, the moderator who receives the original messages would simply redistribute (to the entire net) individual messages, instead of editing them into a single digest. Some of the larger ARPA mailing lists that are not digests currently operate in this mode -- having a moderator greatly reduces the network-wide distribution of repetitious messages and the like. --Lauren--
hal@cornell.UUCP (07/31/83)
There seem to be two major points raised here: (1) How can we cut down on the number of redundant and useless messages, and (2) how can we cut down on the cost of forwarding the news. I'd like to make two modest suggestions: (1) Many of the duplicate articles are caused by multiple (often identical) answers to a posted question. We might be able to reduce the volume if we establish the following custom: when someone posts a question, all responses should be mailed to that person, who is then responsible for posting one (1) note with the answer--if it is worth posting at all. Persons posting followups directly to the net instead of replying to the person who asked the question should receive gentle reminders from those on the net who are irritated by the followup--unless there is a good reason for a followup, such as being unable to mail a reply. Of course, this doesn't apply to open discussions in groups like sf-lovers, politics, and (partially) unix-wizards. This isn't as effective as a digest, but then it is much easier to do and might work in the current USENET environment. (2) About phone charges: Has anyone looked into using WATS lines to distribute the news? It might help if some of the backbone sites had outgoing WATS lines and charged each of the sites they feed a portion of the cost. Would this be cheaper than the present mechanism of using regular long-distance phone lines? It would certainly be cheaper than a satellite link. If this isn't practical, please don't throw bricks at me--it just seems like it would be worth looking into. A final thought: it is possible to fit lots of network addresses in a reasonably compact signature... Hal Perkins UUCP: {decvax|vax135|...}!cornell!hal Cornell Computer Science ARPA: hal@cornell BITNET: hal@crnlcs