[net.news] netiquette and net.newuser

ramona@nsc.uucp (Ramona Wu) (09/09/83)

Great idea!  You have my vote.
 Who ever is in charge of starting groups would be wise to do so.

					RAM-unit
		

chongo@nsc.uucp (Curt Noll) (09/09/83)

being a somewhat new user i would like to read such a netiquette file.
some folks have hinted that such a file exists, so if this is true
would someone send me one?

is there a file that gives a brief overview and perhaps a topiciquette
for each of the newsgroup topics?

chongo /\../\

essick@uiuccsb.UUCP (09/13/83)

#R:arizona:-455900:uiuccsb:3400003:000:190
uiuccsb!essick    Sep 12 08:23:00 1983

	Why not put all of "those" questions together with their
answers and distribute them as an appendix to Mark Horton's
"Guide to Reading the Network News" (or whatever the title is).

-- Ray

ramona@nsc.uucp (Ramona Wu) (09/13/83)

> Creating a group for one and only one article is absolutely
> wasteful.  An article of this sort belongs in net.announce
> or net.general.

I disagree.  If you are a new user and find that you are way behind
in articles you don't have time to go through them one by one to find
netiquette.  Especially if you don't even know that it exists.  If
you are worried about being wastefull think of all the wasted articles
posted caused by not reading netiquette.  In the long run it would avoid
waste.  

By the way,  I have never seen netiquette so I can only guess at what kind
of information it contains so please don't flame me.  If anyone has a copy
could you mail it to me.  Thanks in advance.

 						RAM-unit
						

alb@alice.UUCP (09/16/83)

You seem to miss the point.  Even if the article were to be posted
to a separate group, it would still expire, so newcomers would miss
it.  If it were posted with a long expiration date, then putting it
in net.announce would NOT result in what you say (bogging down the
new user with many articles), since articles that weren't important
would expire and those that were important wouldn't.  The point is
that net.announce is supposed to contain only articles of interest
to all users, newcomers as well, and as such should be read by
everyone.  That is clearly where this article belongs.

Adam

budd@arizona.UUCP (09/16/83)

I agree that creating a new group for one article is somewhat
wasteful, but is there any other method that will insure that
new users will always get access to the netiquette information
before they start submitting the Paddy O'furniture joke?
This was a suggestion for one method that would solve some
problems that would not be too difficult to implemement.

mark@cbosgd.UUCP (09/17/83)

We've tried the "have one article with a long expiration date"
method before.  In fact, if you look in the netnews installation
instructions, it suggests that netequette be put there.  However,
as you can see, it hasn't worked.  When new sites come up, they
usually don't install them.  Also, they tend to get expired anyway,
from bitrot or simple find commands.

We're going to try a monthly posting of netequette to net.announce,
suitably labelled so people can use their n key, and see how it works.

	Mark Horton