[comp.windows.x] Network Computing Devices

NEVILLE%20CVX1@draper.COM (06/07/89)

Does anyone have information on the Network Computing Devices X-Terminal?
Also does anyone know how to contact them ?  i.e. where are they ?

					Thanks
					George

klee@gilroy.pa.dec.com (Ken Lee) (06/08/89)

In article <8906072237.AA00864@ATHENA.MIT.EDU>, NEVILLE%20CVX1@draper.COM writes:
> Does anyone have information on the Network Computing Devices X-Terminal?
> Also does anyone know how to contact them ?  i.e. where are they ?

NCD is in Mountain View, CA.  Their terminal is pretty good.  At 16x16 inches and about 1000x1000 pixels, this is one of the largest of the terminals.  Performance is similar to the Visual terminal. There were alot of these on the floor of the last

kai@uicsrd.csrd.uiuc.edu (06/09/89)

> /* Written by NEVILLE%20CVX1@draper.COM */
> Does anyone have information on the Network Computing Devices X-Terminal?
> Also does anyone know how to contact them ?  i.e. where are they ?
> 					Thanks
> 					George

	Network Computing Devices Inc.
	350 North Bernardo Avenue
	Moutain View, CA 94043
	(415) 694-0650  (fax 415-961-7711)

Sales Offices:
	Mountain View CA	Jeff Raice	415-694-0650
	Rockville Maryland	Stephen Deakins 301-670-2803
	Cleveland Ohio		Ray Zilka	216-892-4660

This data comes from the information packet I received when I called and asked
for info.  The NCD16 seems like a really nice X terminal, but it's currently
out of my price range - $2500 quantity one including 1 Mb RAM, plus $50
software license, and $500 for the RAM based software (or $300 for PROM based
software).  Maintenance costs an additional $500/year after the initial 6 month
warranty.  They did mention a deal where two NCD16's including RAM based
software for $4500, but I couldn't get anyone else (with that kind of money) in
the building interested.

It runs a 12.5 Mhz 68000, with proprietary graphics coprocessor, 0.5 to 4.5 Mb
RAM supported.  The screen is 1024x1024, 16" square, 70 Hz non-interlaced,
paper white.  How is a person supposed to estimate how much RAM they will need?
Does the RAM based software use more of the system RAM than the PROM based sw?

The RAM based software is downloaded using RARP, BOOTP, and TFTP (RARP and
BOOTP aren't available on any systems we have - I don't know if NCD includes
them) from a host on the network.  The PROM based software is cheaper ($300 vs
$500), but upgrades cost more (if you buy maintenance ($500/year) $210 for each
workstation each time you buy a new PROM - RAM based software is supplied at no
charge for the first 10 workstations).

NCD is positioning it as a "low-cost alternative to an engineering workstation",
but I want a X terminal that provides a cost effective enhancement to the
VT220 compatible terminals we currently use.  Guess I'll have to look into the
Acer Zebra, or other low cost, low resolution devices.  Unix World had a review
on 5 X terminals a few months ago, including the NCD16.

Patrick Wolfe  (pat@kai.com,  kailand!pat)
System Manager, Kuck & Associates, Inc.