[net.news] Western Civ Decline Poll Results

rwsh@hound.UUCP (R.STUBBLEFIELD) (01/28/84)

The following are the results of the poll on the decline of Western Civ:

Results are usually shown as three numbers:  A,D,V where
A is the number of respondents who think Western Civ is advancing or stable,
D is the number who think it is declining or collapsing, and
V is the number who think the issue is too vague.

Total Responses: 34

1.  The potential decline of Western Civilization is
uninteresting 1,2,1   	(plus 1 who answered no other questions)
moderately interesting 3,2,2
very interesting 1,14,5
no answer:  1,,

2.  Western Civilization is
collapsing 3
declining 15
stable
advancing 6
Issue too vague 9 (plus 2 who also say it's declining)

3.  Mark with "D" "S" or "A" as evidence for decline(D), stability(S),
or advance(A) for the following areas:
A      S     D		A     S     D		A     S     D
standard of living	life span		environment
5,6,6  ,1,2  ,10,       4,14,7 ,1,  ,3,         ,,1   3,3,1 1,14,6
taxes			law			science
2,3,   2,4,2 ,9,5       1,,1  2,,3  1,16,3      4,12,8 ,2,1 ,4,
books			movies			art
2,2,1  1,4,4 1,9,2      ,2,3  2,4,4 1,8,1       3,3,2 2,1,3 ,12,2
technology		media			education
4,10,8 ,2,   ,5,1       3,2,2 ,4,2  ,13,2       2,1,2 1,,1  1,17,6
government		culture			economics
1,,    2,3,1 1,16,7     ,1,1  2,2,5 1,13,1      3,,2  1,3,2  ,12,3
morality		religion		philosophy
2,1,1  1,1,3 1,10,3     ,1,   1,1,2 3,13,3      1,1,1 3,2,2 ,11,3

4.  How do you feel about the general trend of Western Civilization?
sad ,11,3	indifferent ,1,2 	elated ,1,
fearful	2,7,3	contented 1,,1		optimistic 6,2,3
other
A: curious
D: angry,disappointed,helpless?,pessimistic,concerned,frustrated,depressed
V: crisis,hopeful?,helpless,disappointed

5.  Which of the following are the fundamental reasons for the
general trend? 
A.  Conspiracy ,,1	B.  Communists ,,	C.  Too much government 1,10,5
D.  Education 3,13,4	E.  Laws 2,8,5		F.  Too little government ,,1
G.  Economics 3,6,4	H.  Politics 2,11,5	I.  Morality 1,11,5
J.  Religion 1,10,4	K.  Philosophy ,9,3
L.  Other
A: technology,general good intentions
D: nuclear proliferation,military,Luddite revolt,entropy,ennui
V: kept illusions,statism,subjectivism,science,technology,shortsightedness
  resistance to change

6.  Changes to which of the above (A - L) would be the most effective way
to change the general trend of Western Civilization?
A: 2D,2G,2H,C,L,technology
D: 10D,~J,J,4K,~military,2 eliminate nukes,2E,3I,3C,3G,3H,L,F
   Why bother?
V: Government, 3K,2L, science,A-L,C,D,E,J

7.  If you don't think Western Civilization is declining, why do you think
others do?
They lack historical perspective 3,1,4
They are just being pretentious ,,3
Their method of thinking is to prefer simplistic views 2,1,2
They improperly generalize from some personally interesting areas 1,1,4
Other
A: People Don't like change,exaggeration,fear of future and risk
D: uneven progress;e.g. war technology vs. peace philosophy
V: call "decline" what the don't like
   they are swayed by a vocal minority
   Western Civ is a floating abstraction to them
   Pessimism is (or was) fashionable
   They may be right, and I may be wrong

8.  Are your views on the general trend correlated with your political views?
A.  I am not at all(N), somewhat(S), or very (V) sympathetic with the political
views of
N       S     V     	N     S     V     	N     S     V
communists	   	socialists	     	totalitarians
6,12,5 ,5,1  ,,    	4,9,2 2,8,4 ,,1   	6,14,7 ,4,   ,,
democrats	  	republicans	    	conservatives
2,5,1 4,11,5 ,,1  	2,6,4 4,10,3 ,,    	3,10,4 2,7,3 1,,
liberals	  	marxists	    	independents
1,6,1 5,10,5 1,,1  	5,13,4 ,3,3 ,,    	1,3,  2,7,3 ,3,1
libertarians	  	anarchists
1,1,2 4,11,4 1,5,1 	5,9,5 1,4,2 ,4,1
other
A: utilitarians
D: techno_S,fascists,theocrats,nihilists,objectivists
V: objectivists

B.  I think the proper function of a government is
to protect individual rights 5,15,7
to provide the greatest good for the greatest number 3,3,4
to provide for the welfare of its citizens 5,7,5
to promote equality of results as well as of opportunity 1,3,4
unsolicited others
to keep its cotton picking hands off my business ,,1
to serve as a model to the individual of proper behavior ,,1
I can't bring myself to answer what is proper for a government to do ,1,
to promote conformity to standards such as driving on right of road
to provide standards, opportunity, and encouragement of competition, research,
	and capital investment ,1,

9.  Is your view correlated with your wealth?
I am on welfare(_),
as poor as a typical grad student 1,1,2
struggling ,2,3
between struggling and comfortable ,3,
comfortable 5,11,6
wealthy ,1,

10.  With age?
I am < 20 ,1,1
in my twenties 5,7,5
in my thirties 1,8,2
older than 40 ,2,1

21.  With sex?  I am M 5,16,8	  F ,1,1	  No Answer 1,1,

12.  With belief in God?
I believe God is important in my daily life ,1,3
I often ,,2    sometimes ,1,   rarely 1,4,2  go to church (or other religious
services.
I am an agnostic 3,4,
I am an atheist 1,9,4
buddhist ,,1
pagan ,1,
hodge-podge

13.  With profession?
engineer 3,4,4	scientist 1,2,1	teacher ,,1	mathematician ,2,1
lawyer 1,,	journalist(_)	artist ,,1	homemaker(_)
programmer 2,10,5
student ,3,2
other
A:
D: technician,ex-anthropologist
V: administrator

14.  With philosophical views?
None 1,2,2		Aristotelian		Existentialist ,3.5,2
Kantian 1.5,,		Platonist ,1,		Linguistic Analyst ,1,
Pragmatist .5,1,1	Objectivist ,5.5,1	Logical Positivist
A: utilitarian,scientific realist,my ass and alligators don't mix
D: personal responsibility, anthropological training, situational ethics,
   rational anarchism, evolutionist, humanist
V: I believe man is basically good, buddhist
No Answer 2,3,1

I thank you all--especially those who were uninterested but took the time
to respond anyway.
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Bob Stubblefield HO2J611, AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel,NJ 07733
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