[comp.windows.x] NCD16 memory expansion

dsill@ark1.nswc.navy.mil (Dave Sill) (07/12/89)

We have a 1.5MB NCD16 that we'd like to upgrade.  Does it make sense
to go all the way to 4.5MB or is 3MB sufficient.  (Don't laugh, I
*have* to ask.)

In the 1.5MB configuration, the NCD16 has 1/2MB on the motherboard and
four 256k SIMMs occupying its four SIMM sockets.  To upgrade to 4.5MB
requires replacing all four 256k SIMMs with 1MB SIMMs (at $450 each).
To upgrade to 3MB, only two 256k SIMMs would be replaced.

Is it true that "A SIMM is a SIMM is SIMM"?  Could I buy someone
else's 1MB SIMM?  Has anyone done this?

I need replies as soon as possible, of course.

-Dave Sill
 dsill@relay.nswc.navy.mil

djg@pyrnova (Don Giberson) (07/14/89)

In article <9@ark1.nswc.navy.mil> dsill@ark1.nswc.navy.mil (Dave Sill) writes:
>We have a 1.5MB NCD16 that we'd like to upgrade.  Does it make sense
>to go all the way to 4.5MB or is 3MB sufficient.

that depends totally on your application needs - how many
windows, use of backing store, etc.  can't help you there.

>Is it true that "A SIMM is a SIMM is SIMM"?  Could I buy someone
>else's 1MB SIMM?  Has anyone done this?

indeed, a SIMM is a SIMM...  I believe someone here did exactly 
what you're proposing:  went to local store & bought ones of 
similar cycle speed and they worked fine.  

the spec's are:  256K or 1M by 8 bit, 100ns;
max. height 1.1", between 0.047 and 0.053 inches thick.

perhaps you'd best ask the store if you can return them if 
they don't work; then what do you have to lose?

  Don Giberson / Pyramid Technology Corp / djg@pyramid.com / 415-965-7200 x2031
  <or>    ...!{allegra,decwrl,hplabs,munnari,sun,uunet,utai}!pyramid!djg
Standard disclaimer, etc. etc.

fmr@cwi.nl (Frank Rahmani) (07/14/89)

> else's 1MB SIMM?  Has anyone done this?
Dave,
we tried them with Apple Macintosh SIMMS,as we didn't have any others.
It worked o.k. So should others (and cheapers).

fmr@cwi.nl
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klong@pauling.bcm.tmc.edu (Kevin Long) (08/02/89)

In article <9@ark1.nswc.navy.mil> dsill@ark1.nswc.navy.mil (Dave Sill) writes:
>We have a 1.5MB NCD16 that we'd like to upgrade.
>To upgrade to 4.5MB
>requires replacing all four 256k SIMMs with 1MB SIMMs (at $450 each).

I guess this goes along with the Navy's $500 hammers :-)? I don't know where
you buy your memory, but we haven't paid a penny over $200 for 1MB SIMMs in
about a year, and that's without an educational discount (just a verbal
estimate that we'll buy 80MB a year).  
Try contacting Clearpoint Research Corporation in Hopkinton, Mass.

3.0MB has worked quite satisfactorily on all eleven of our NCD16s.
We run FrameMaker, several xterms, a paint program, xwatch, xclock,
xtools, twm, and a number of home-grown applications with memory
to spare.  For us, it's certainly the case that our screens get filled
with too many windows before we run out of 3.0MB memory.

	Kevin Long
	IAIMS Research