eam@soleil.UUCP (Ed A. Mills) (08/02/89)
My VAXStation 3100 frequently crashes under DECWindows. No warning or error messages are given, and it seems to result from a wide assortment of conditions. Today, I pressed Shift-Printscreen accidentally, and it bombed. Sometimes when I open a window it crashes, although I had opened the same window only moments before. It crashes from time to time in other common situations. When it crashes the screen goes B&W, I get a >>> prompt and the system locks up, after which I reboot. Has anyone else found the DECWindows application to be this fragile? Or has anyone else experienced sporadic crashes? Ed Mills Harris Semiconductor Melbourne, Fl
graham@fuel.dec.com (kris graham) (08/02/89)
>Has anyone else found the DECWindows application to be this fragile? Or >has anyone else experienced sporadic crashes? It is hard to tell if you have a hardware problem, software problem, or a bad installation. Can' even tell if you are running ULTRIX or VMS ...and what version. Also, please report your probelms to DIGITAL. We have an obligation to keep our customers happy ;-)....please use the customer support centers. -- Christopher Graham Digital Equipment Corp Ultrix Resource Center New York City
mellon@zayante.pa.dec.com (Ted Lemon) (08/02/89)
I have a DECstation 3100 on my desk, running DECwindows, and I've never ever had that happen to me. Since it's happening to you so often, I suspect that one of two things is happening. Either you're running out-of-rev software, or your DECstation is busted. I've never even seen the Field Test release do what you describe, so I suspect the hardware (since I'm a software hacker, you can draw whatever conclusions you like :'). Your problem could be related to bad memory (e.g. if you expanded the memory with SIMMs that are too slow), or it could be a plain old defective product. You should definitely talk to field service. Needless to say, this isn't DEC's party line, nor is it a commitment from DEC or from me personally about the DECstation 3100 hardware or software. _MelloN_
pickel@mcnc.org (Lisa C. Pickel) (08/02/89)
In article <761@soleil.UUCP> eam@soleil.UUCP (Ed A. Mills) writes: > >Has anyone else found the DECWindows application to be this fragile? Or >has anyone else experienced sporadic crashes? Yes, I'm having problems with the DEC X11 server. It seems there might be a division by zero error somewhere in it. Whenever I ask it to draw a line between two incredibly close points, it hangs the server. Right now, I'm waiting for the upgrade and hoping that fixes it. Lisa. decvax!mcnc!pickel
gentile@horsey.dec.com (Sam Gentile) (08/03/89)
In article <761@soleil.UUCP>, eam@soleil.UUCP (Ed A. Mills) writes... >My VAXStation 3100 frequently crashes under DECWindows. No warning or >error messages are given, and it seems to result from a wide assortment of >conditions. Today, I pressed Shift-Printscreen accidentally, and it bombed. >Sometimes when I open a window it crashes, although I had opened the same >window only moments before. It crashes from time to time in other common >situations. > >When it crashes the screen goes B&W, I get a >>> prompt and the system >locks up, after which I reboot. > >Has anyone else found the DECWindows application to be this fragile? Or >has anyone else experienced sporadic crashes? > How much memory does your workstation have and how many applications do you have running at time? If you are running with less than 6 MEG and more than one application at a time, you will experience sporadic crashes. I solved my problems by having my apps run remotely on the mini in the cluster and using my VS2000 for display. Sam Gentile gentile%horsey.dec@decwrl.dec.com Software Engineer decwrl!horsey.dec.com!gentile Digital Equipment Corp Software Services Engineering - Network Engineering 5 Wentworth Drive GSF1-1/G13, Hudson NH 03051 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- DIGITAL is Number ONE in Networking! ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- The views expressed are my totally my own and do not reflect the views of Digital Equipment Corp.
jordan@morgan.COM (Jordan Hayes) (08/03/89)
Sam Gentile <gentile%horsey.dec@decwrl.dec.com> writes:
If you are running with less than 6 MEG and more than one
application at a time, you will experience sporadic crashes.
Is this a feature?
/jordancook@iris.ucdavis.edu (Doug Cook) (08/04/89)
>Has anyone else found the DECWindows application to be this fragile? Or >has anyone else experienced sporadic crashes? Yes. I've a DECStation 3100 running UWS 2.0. Under one window manager, the server crashes every time I resize a window. I've traced it down to a particular XConfigureWindow call, but I can't find anything wrong on the window manager's side. It works fine on other machines, and it's definitely not a hardware problem with the DEC. I'm hoping UWS 2.1 will fix this. -sigh- -Doug Douglas M. Cook Dept. of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science, UC Davis dmcook@ucdavis.edu cook@iris.ucdavis.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Douglas Michael Cook | Address: ------------------------------------| cook@iris.ucdavis.edu (Internet) Student Asst. Systems Administrator | dmcook@ucdavis.edu
graham@fuel.dec.com (kris graham) (08/04/89)
>Yes. I've a DECStation 3100 running UWS 2.0. Under one window >manager, the server crashes every time I resize a window. Could you elaborate a little bit? Such as... Is this window manager supplied and supported by DIGITAL? Please report all DECwindows bugs directly to DIGITAL. -- Christopher Graham Digital Equipment Corp Ultrix Resource Center 2 Penn Plaza New York City
steve@UMIACS.UMD.EDU (08/04/89)
I beg to differ. While I think that bugs and problems should be reported to Digital, I also think it's a good thing to let one's colleagues on the net know about potential problems. I admit that they should be checked out as thoroughly as possible beforehand... but I'd rather filter through potentially wrong bug reports for those nuggets of gold than not have anything to filter through at all. -Steve Spoken: Steve Miller Domain: steve@mimsy.umd.edu UUCP: uunet!mimsy!steve Phone: +1-301-454-1808 USPS: UMIACS, Univ. of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742
cook@iris.ucdavis.edu (Doug Cook) (08/05/89)
In article <1424@riscy.dec.com> graham@fuel.dec.com (kris graham) writes: > >>Yes. I've a DECStation 3100 running UWS 2.0. Under one window >>manager, the server crashes every time I resize a window. > >Could you elaborate a little bit? Such as... Is this window manager supplied and supported >by DIGITAL? Are you implying that I can only run DEC-supported applications on my DEC server? This doesn't sound like the spirit of The X Window System to me... I'll report the bug if I still experience the same problem when I get my UWS 2.1 server; I don't see the point in wasting DEC customer service's time at this point running down a server bug if it's already been fixed. -Doug Douglas M. Cook Dept. of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science, UC Davis dmcook@ucdavis.edu cook@iris.ucdavis.edu
kris.graham@mamab.FIDONET.ORG (kris graham) (08/05/89)
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