bmc@MYCROFT.MAYO.EDU (09/27/89)
I have two requests to for the net: 1) Are the HP widgets available via FTP, if so where can I get them? I am trying to build xwebster on a DECstation 3100 (ultrix 3.1) and need the HP widget set for xwebster. 2) A recent project has spawned the need for me to learn more (possibly write) about window managers. Any suggestions as to appropriate sources? I really would like to find something like "Everything you always wanted to know ..." or "How to write WM's 101". Many thanks in advance. --Bruce ---------------------------------------------------- Bruce M. Cameron bmc@bru.mayo.edu Medical Sciences 1-14 (507) 284-3288 Mayo Foundation WD9CKW Rochester, MN 55905 ----------------------------------------------------
mayer@hplabsz.HPL.HP.COM (Niels Mayer) (09/27/89)
> 1) Are the HP widgets available via FTP, if so where can I get them? I am trying > to build xwebster on a DECstation 3100 (ultrix 3.1) and need the HP widget > set for xwebster. You can get xwebster 1.1 and the x11r3 HP widgets via anonymous ftp from expo.lcs.mit.edu. In directory contrib, you'll see: -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp 42782 Mar 6 1989 xwebster.tar.Z -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp 1546978 Jun 30 23:02 Xhp.R3.tar.Z I have no idea whether xwebster/Xhp.R3 works on the DECstation 3100. If you want to give me one of these puppies as a home machine, I'll check it out for you.... heck, I'll even port, enhance, and maintain it! :-) > 2) A recent project has spawned the need for me to learn more (possibly > write) about window managers. Any suggestions as to appropriate sources? > I really would like to find something like "Everything you always wanted to > know ..." or "How to write WM's 101". Documentation: the famed and fabled ICCCM. It certainly ain't a how-to guide. Implementations: Take a look at gwm, also in expo.lcs.mit.edu's contrib directory. It's "the gnuemacs of window managers" and uses a mini-lisp customization language. Customizing this may keep you from having to write your own, thereby preserving your sanity. I don't use gwm, but that's because I need to use the motif window manager... it's the only one ICCCM compliant-enough to work with the Motif toolkit. PS: please don't ask me about getting the xwebster server. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Niels Mayer -- hplabs!mayer -- mayer@hplabs.hp.com Human-Computer Interaction Department Hewlett-Packard Laboratories Palo Alto, CA. *
jstravis@athena.mit.edu (John S. Travis) (09/28/89)
In article <4039@hplabsz.HPL.HP.COM> mayer@hplabs.hp.com (Niels Mayer) writes: >> 1) Are the HP widgets available via FTP, if so where can I get them? I am trying >> to build xwebster on a DECstation 3100 (ultrix 3.1) and need the HP widget >> set for xwebster. > >You can get xwebster 1.1 and the x11r3 HP widgets via anonymous ftp >from expo.lcs.mit.edu. In directory contrib, you'll see: > > -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp 42782 Mar 6 1989 xwebster.tar.Z > -rw-rw-rw- 1 ftp 1546978 Jun 30 23:02 Xhp.R3.tar.Z > >I have no idea whether xwebster/Xhp.R3 works on the DECstation 3100. If you >want to give me one of these puppies as a home machine, I'll check it out >for you.... heck, I'll even port, enhance, and maintain it! :-) forgive me for this novice question, but where do i go (or what do I do) to learn how to ftp the Xhp. I assume i set to binary mode and do a simple get. Then what? I know tar.Z. are ways the files are compressed, but how do i get them in normal file/directory form. Thanks for any help and e-mail answers are preferred since this has probbaly already been said onthe net. john travis jstravi@athena.mit.edu
bmc@MYCROFT.MAYO.EDU (09/28/89)
The ".Z" means that the files were compressed useing ... compress,
so to uncompress them use ... uncompress.
e.g.: uncompress Xhp.R3.tar.Z
This will leave you with a ".tar" file. The individual elements may be extracted
by using tar.
e.g.: tar xvf Xhp.tar
Once this command is finished, all the files necessary for Xhp will be in
your directory.
--Bruce
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Bruce M. Cameron bmc@bru.mayo.edu
Medical Sciences 1-14 (507) 284-3288
Mayo Foundation WD9CKW
Rochester, MN 55905
----------------------------------------------------bruce@servio.UUCP (Bruce Schuchardt) (09/29/89)
In article <4039@hplabsz.HPL.HP.COM> mayer@hplabs.hp.com (Niels Mayer) writes: ... >I have no idea whether xwebster/Xhp.R3 works on the DECstation 3100. If you >want to give me one of these puppies as a home machine, I'll check it out >for you.... heck, I'll even port, enhance, and maintain it! :-) ... The HP widgets work fine on the DECStation. The test programs provided don't work well with dxwm. You can get them to do so if you muck around with WMHints. Use uwm if you don't want to do this. When using the HP widgets, I got lots of version errors. The IntrinsicP.h file shipped with DECWindows has version 7001, but their compiled widgets have version 11003. You can get rid of this error by patching IntrinsicP.h to have 11003 before compiling the HP widgets. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Bruce Schuchardt Ph: (503) 629-8383 Servio Logic bruce@servio.SLC.COM Beaverton, OR uunet!servio!bruce