brianc@ZETA.SAINTJOE.EDU ("Brian CapouchV1ULFj6:8:8") (09/26/89)
I have had a Visual X-19 (don't know what the "Turbo" version is . . .) for a little over a month. There _is_ a way to get it to crash, but you have to work very hard at it. I am helping them test their server ROMS and hence it's sort of my business to make them crash. In everyday use, it's almost impossible. The screen is bright, crisp, and right on par with the head on our Sun workstations. The server implementation is _much_ faster than the server on our Sun 3/150. I have a 1MB RAM version of this machine. For anyone doing anything interesting, I think that 2MB would be the desirable minimum. As far as that goes, I have told Visual I don't think they should even sell one with less than that. It would be very hard to go wrong with this unit, as far as I'm concerned. Brian Capouch Saint Joseph's College brianc@saintjoe.edu
lind@etana.tut.fi (Lindell Markku) (09/27/89)
From article <4Z7u6My3LE019D2HEp@zeta>, by brianc@ZETA.SAINTJOE.EDU ("Brian CapouchV1ULFj6:8:8"):
> I have had a Visual X-19 (don't know what the "Turbo" version is . . .) for a
> little over a month.
>
> There _is_ a way to get it to crash, but you have to work very hard at it. I
> am helping them test their server ROMS and hence it's sort of my business to
> make them crash. In everyday use, it's almost impossible.
> I have a 1MB RAM version of this machine. For anyone doing anything
> interesting, I think that 2MB would be the desirable minimum. As far as that
We have been testing a liitle bit that 19" Visual X-terminal too
with 1 MB RAM. The only problem seemed to be that when you open one
window too many: it crashes. And it does this without warning.
I suppose with more memory it will be ok to use, but this kind of
property is quit unconveniet.
> Brian Capouch
Markku
Markku Lindell Tampere University of Technology
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BITNET: lind@tut tel: +358 31 162 623, fax: +358 31 162 620mjb@xpiinc.UU.NET (Michael J. Braca) (09/30/89)
In article <8830@etana.tut.fi> lind@etana.tut.fi (Lindell Markku) writes: > > We have been testing a liitle bit that 19" Visual X-terminal too > with 1 MB RAM. The only problem seemed to be that when you open one > window too many: it crashes. And it does this without warning. You need to get ahold of the latest version of the firmware (Release 2.5), which won't ever crash from running out of memory and warns you when you are getting low. Please contact your sales rep for details. Mike Braca Visual Technology mjb@xpiinc.uu.net
garvey@cmic.UUCP (Joe Garvey) (10/01/89)
>> I have had a Visual X-19 (don't know what the "Turbo" version is . . .) for a >> little over a month. I know what the "Turbo" version is: It's a higher resolution (1280x1024) X-19 where the 68k microprocessor has been replaced by a 68020! Zoom! I'm not sure who will use all this speed, as the existing X-19 outperforms a low end workstation. I wouldn't mind having one though (Boss you hear that?). >> There _is_ a way to get it to crash, but you have to work very hard at it. I I agree... you don have to work at it. I also know that fault coverage on version 2.2 of the firmware was only about 80%. I believe they have have had several quick revs of the firmware and have gotten fault coverage up to near 100%. I'm hoping they'll keep the cost of updates low... like letting those of us who can anon. uucp in and pick up new binaries (Intel Hex format). That way I can spend money on new X-Terminals and not software updates. :-) I'm sure there are those of us who would dup PROMs if Visual said it was ok... for those who don't have the PROM programming tools... > >> I have a 1MB RAM version of this machine. For anyone doing anything >> interesting, I think that 2MB would be the desirable minimum. As far as that Absolutely! You can squeek (sp?) by on 1MB... but then you can't even run xphoon :-( I've upgraded our units... it's a snap... Thanks Visual you did a great mechanical design job. RAM LAYOUT - AERIAL VIEW .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |1| |1| |2| |2| |3| |3| |4| |4| |4| |4| |3| |3| |2| |2| |1| |1| `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |1| |1| |2| |2| |3| |3| |4| |4| |4| |4| |3| |3| |2| |2| |1| |1| `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' Legend: 1 - These RAMs are soldered in by Visual. (Total 1 MB RAM). 2 - Sockets for 2nd MB of RAM 3 - Sockets for 3nd MB of RAM 4 - Sockets for 4nd MB of RAM The DRAMs I used were from Texas Inst. # TMS44C256-10N, cost ~ $17/ea. These are 256Kx4 parts. There are no jumpers to set... tools required one phillips head screwdriver! Joe Garvey California Microwave UUCP: {uunet, backbone}!amdahl!pyramid!mips!cmic!garvey Internet: ames!mips!cmic!garvey No, I'm not in the maps, yet. Yes, I posted our entry.
des@xpiinc.UUCP (10/18/89)
A while ago Joe Garvey from California Microwave posted this view of the DRAM configuration of our Visual X-19 X Display Station: : : RAM LAYOUT - AERIAL VIEW : :.-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. :| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | :|1| |1| |2| |2| |3| |3| |4| |4| |4| |4| |3| |3| |2| |2| |1| |1| :`-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' :.-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. :| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | :|1| |1| |2| |2| |3| |3| |4| |4| |4| |4| |3| |3| |2| |2| |1| |1| :`-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' : :Legend: :1 - These RAMs are soldered in by Visual. (Total 1 MB RAM). :2 - Sockets for 2nd MB of RAM :3 - Sockets for 3nd MB of RAM :4 - Sockets for 4nd MB of RAM : :The DRAMs I used were from Texas Inst. # TMS44C256-10N, cost ~ $17/ea. :These are 256Kx4 parts. : :There are no jumpers to set... tools required one phillips head screwdriver! : :Joe Garvey :California Microwave That configuration will work but we would prefer to see people doing it this way: .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |1| |1| |3| |3| |4| |4| |4| |4| |3| |3| |2| |2| |2| |2| |1| |1| `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |1| |1| |3| |3| |4| |4| |4| |4| |3| |3| |2| |2| |2| |2| |1| |1| `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' This is better because it gives the X-19 more contiguous memory. If you have any questions please give us a call. Daniel Stone Sr. Software Engineer Visual Technology des@xpiinc.uu.net