[comp.windows.x] Large Monitors for X Window under Macintosh A/UX

tody@noao.edu (Doug Tody X217) (11/07/89)

I will soon be getting a Mac II running A/UX to use as an X Window
development system.  Although the system will have adequate disk and
memory for use as a workstation, it will have only the standard 14" color
monitor, which is a bit small for use with windows.

I am considering adding a high resolution color or monochrome monitor to
this system.  It appears that most third party hires monitors for the Mac
support only MacOS; can anyone recommend a product which will also work
with A/UX and X windows?  I will be getting the Apple version of X window,
but have no information on the monitors it supports (probably only Apple
monitors).  Perhaps the MIT release of X11.4 will include support for
additional monitors under A/UX.

Many thanks for any information anyone out there can provide!

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dcr0@GTE.COM (David Robbins) (11/07/89)

From article <1250@noao.UUCP>, by tody@noao.edu (Doug Tody X217):
> I am considering adding a high resolution color or monochrome monitor to
> this system.  It appears that most third party hires monitors for the Mac
> support only MacOS; can anyone recommend a product which will also work
> with A/UX and X windows?  I will be getting the Apple version of X window,
> but have no information on the monitors it supports (probably only Apple
> monitors).  Perhaps the MIT release of X11.4 will include support for
> additional monitors under A/UX.

A/UX version 1.1 will support any monitor that the Macintosh supports,
according to the best sources I know of.   I have been running A/UX with
a Moniterm Viking I monitor, with no problems whatsoever.  In fact, I have
not heard in the past 6-9 months of any monitors that do *not* work well
with A/UX.  And this holds true for the X Window System running on A/UX as
well, both the MIT distribution and the Apple X11R3 product.

I would recommend the Apple X11R3 product over the MIT X11R3 distribution,
at least at the moment.  The server is noticeably faster.  This may change,
however, if the MIT X11R4 distribution (coming Real Soon Now) includes the
latest Apple server.  Also, the Apple product supports 8-bit color, whereas
the MIT X11R3 A/UX server supports only monochrome.

Anyway, enough said.  The short answer is:  get whatever monitor you like
best -- it is 99 44/100 % probable that it will work with X on A/UX.  (I
make it a policy never to make absolute promises; Murphy's law guarantees
that something would prove me wrong. :-))
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jwkim@cosmos.kaist.ac.kr (Jangwook Kim) (11/09/89)

It's just a question to X. ---
Is X on Macintosh worth to develop?
Then what's the impact or merit of X on Macintosh?

Jangwook Kim
CS Dept., 
KAIST(Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology)

steve@cpdaux.UUCP (Steve Lemke) (11/10/89)

In article <1250@noao.UUCP> tody@noao.edu (Doug Tody X217) writes:
}
}I am considering adding a high resolution color or monochrome monitor to
}this system.  It appears that most third party hires monitors for the Mac
}support only MacOS; can anyone recommend a product which will also work
}with A/UX and X windows?  I will be getting the Apple version of X window,
}but have no information on the monitors it supports (probably only Apple
}monitors).  Perhaps the MIT release of X11.4 will include support for
}additional monitors under A/UX.

I am pleased to officially announce that the Radius 19" Color Display, when
connected to either a Radius Grey Scale/Color (8-bit) board or a Radius
DirectColor (16 or 24 bit) board, works with Apple's implementation of
X-Windows under A/UX 1.1.1.  I personally tested this earlier this week. The
DirectColor board requires ROM version 1.1 (on the video board; it should be
available from Radius Tech Support first thing next week).

Unfortunately, Apple's A/UX (and therefore X-Windows) does *NOT* support
16-bit or 24-bit modes on Macintosh video cards, so 8-bit mode is the most
colorful you can get for now, even with the DirectColor 24-bit board.  In
the future, hopefully Apple will bring 32-bit QuickDraw support to A/UX,
and also to X-Windows.

A/UX appears to run on whatever video card is leftmost in the Macintosh,
whether or not a monitor is connected, and without regard to which monitor
is selected as the "Menubar" monitor in MacOS.  However, under X-Windows,
multiple monitors are supported, and it is therefore possible to have one
or more Radius monitors combined with one or more Apple monitors.  See the
X-Windows documentation for details on how to select which monitors to use
and with what bit modes.

Steve Lemke
Engineering QA Department
Radius Inc.
(radius.com coming soon!)

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chetty@world.std.com (Chetty Ramanathan) (11/13/89)

>I am pleased to officially announce that the Radius 19" Color Display, when
>connected to either a Radius Grey Scale/Color (8-bit) board or a Radius
>DirectColor (16 or 24 bit) board, works with Apple's implementation of
>X-Windows under A/UX 1.1.1.  I personally tested this earlier this week. The
>DirectColor board requires ROM version 1.1 (on the video board; it should be
>available from Radius Tech Support first thing next week).

Has anyone had any success in running X-Windows under AU/X 1.1.1 with a
Supemac 19in (Trinitron) monitor connected to a Supermac 24bit board?

Anybody know whether Supermac have released the new version of the ROM?

	-chetty
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dales@Apple.COM (Dale Satterfield) (11/13/89)

In article <1989Nov12.215614.5121@world.std.com> chetty@world.std.com (Chetty Ramanathan) writes:
>
>
>Has anyone had any success in running X-Windows under AU/X 1.1.1 with a
>Supemac 19in (Trinitron) monitor connected to a Supermac 24bit board?
>

I don't know about Supermac, but I have been using a RasterOps 224
with a 19in. monitor and have had no problems. X only supports 8 bits though.
I invoke with X11 -screen 0 -depth 8.