casey@gauss.llnl.gov (Casey Leedom) (12/02/89)
Two questions. First the simple one:
1. Why doesn't "freeze" affect window instantiations in UWM.
(I know which section of code is responsible. I'm interested
in why the authors of UWM decided not to have "freeze" only
affect moves and resizes.) I ask this because my GraphOn OptiMax
200 X11 terminal doesn't cope well with UWM's assumption of
infinite bandwidth between UWM and the display.
2. I'd ``fix'' this and submit a patch to MIT, but it seems to me
that I saw a note going by from one of the MIT folk that said
that UWM was going to be deprecated in R4. Is R4 going to come
with any window managers except those in the contrib area? (I.e.
are there going to be any in the core?) And, what does this bode
for UWM's future? It's still the only window manager I've tried
that I can stand. (I've tried awm and twm. They just get in my
way. (And no, my default shell isn't /bin/sh ... :-)) I have yet
to try gwm, mwm, etc.)
Caseyjim@EXPO.LCS.MIT.EDU (Jim Fulton) (12/02/89)
2. I'd ``fix'' this and submit a patch to MIT, but it seems to me
that I saw a note going by from one of the MIT folk that said
that UWM was going to be deprecated in R4
Yup, it's history. It'll be on the contrib tape for anyone who really wants
it, but no work has been done on it in over 8 months. In particular, people
will probably find it to be ICCCM-hostile.
Is R4 going to come
with any window managers except those in the contrib area?
Yes: a fairly massively rewritten twm (now called the Tab Window Manager
for one of its more interesting new features). It'll support multiple
screens, be ICCCM-compliant, provide optional titlebars with user-specifiable
titlebuttons and actions, several different icon management techniques,
non-rectangular windows (ever see a round clock with a floating titlebar?),
and relatively zippy interaction.
And, what does this bode for UWM's future?
A twenty-one button salute and burial at C? :-) I'm sure someone will write
a gwm profile to emulate it, though.
It's still the only window manager I've tried
that I can stand.
We've tried pretty hard to make it as painless as possible to adapt (some of
us were pretty attached to xwm back in the age of dinosaurs).
Jimenvbvs@epb2.lbl.gov (Brian V. Smith) (12/03/89)
In article <8912021528.AA00452@kanga.lcs.mit.edu> jim@EXPO.LCS.MIT.EDU (Jim Fulton) writes:
< Yes: a fairly massively rewritten twm (now called the Tab Window Manager
< for one of its more interesting new features). It'll support multiple
< screens, be ICCCM-compliant, provide optional titlebars with user-specifiable
< titlebuttons and actions, several different icon management techniques,
< non-rectangular windows (ever see a round clock with a floating titlebar?),
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Aha!! So the "TypicalR4screendump" xwd file on expo WAS for real!
Using SHAPE, I presume?
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Brian V. Smith (bvsmith@lbl.gov)
Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
I don't speak for LBL, these non-opinions are all mine.