[net.news] New news software authors take note, get rid of Re: feature

brad@looking.UUCP (Brad Templeton) (06/22/84)

I have noted recently some people talking about actual work on writing
new news software.  I've been too busy to get the names, but would those
involved with the work please get in touch with me.

If you're just going to redo the existing system, instead of designing
a new one (I have the design for a new one based on a keyword system which
I would like to interest you in) I strongly suggest you eliminate the
"Re:" feature in followup.

The subject line is the most important line in the article, and it should
never be machine generated.  As far as many people on the net are concerned,
an article with a bad subject is a waste of net time.  I NEVER read an
"orphaned response" or much beyond the first few "Re:" articles, and I know
others are like this too.

The Subject:  header should in fact be deleted and changed to "Synopsis".
In either case, it should be multi-lined as often as possible.  I
would even suggest that the software check, and not allow a subject which
is shorter than 30 chars or is the same as the subject of the article
being followed up.   If you have something worth saying, it is worth
summarizing.

Some may object that the software should not impinge so on the freedom
of netters to write what subject they want.  I say the reverse.  An article
is posted once, and possibly read thousands of times.  Any extra effort
at the time of posting that helps the reader is worth enforcing.
-- 
	Brad Templeton - Waterloo, Ontario (519) 886-7304

mark@cbosgd.UUCP (Mark Horton) (06/25/84)

There is already a framework in place for followups, and getting
rid of the Re: feature is not part of it.  People who are tired
of reading about socks in hyperspace appreciate the fact that
the subjects are the same, since they can 'n' all the messages
with the same subject.

A new header line called "Summary" exists (or at least there are
stubs in 2.11 for it) - after the text of a followup has been typed
in, the user should be prompted for a summary of what the user
has contributed to the discussion and that will be put into the
Summary header, which is shown to users reading the followup.

While the "References" line is there to help group subtopics,
it isn't enough; there are too many bottlenecks that lose things
like references.  Grouping messages with the same subject together
is an important part of this sorting.  Even then, people often enter
new messages with new subjects and the software can't tell.

	Mark Horton

jlh@loral.UUCP (Jim Harkins) (06/28/84)

HOLD IT!!!!!  This guy is suggesting we get rid of the re: feature of
readnews.  I don't know about him, but instead of deleting this feature
I'd rather see it expanded.  A neat thing to be able to do would be to
say 'Don't show me any re: Wallys world is wunnerful  articles' because
after 2-3 followup articles I never read any more anyway.  I hope whomever
is rewriting readnews leaves it in.  Also, he wants a synopsis to be at
least 30 characters long.  WHY???  It seems to me that the purpose of
a synopsis is to be concise, why punish those who are good at it??


							Jim

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