stephenj@deblil.Sun.COM (Stephen Johnson) (12/06/89)
I have a Dell system 310 (386) with 1 meg at home and it runs MSDOG 3.2. Is there a version of X windows which will run on this system? I realize that I can get some version of Un*x for too much money and then get X on Un*x (again for too much money). Maybe, someone out there knows of a company that sells X for the EGA/VGA graphics card and works on MSDOG (that isn't too expensive). OR, is it possible to grab the X source and compile it for MSDOG and the EGA/VGA? Thanks. Stephen P. Johnson (stephenj@sun.com) | I could be bounded in a Sun Microsystems, Inc. | nutshell and count myself 2550 Garcia Ave., Mountain View, CA 94043 | a king of infinite space
klee@chico.pa.dec.com (Ken Lee) (12/06/89)
In article <128822@sun.Eng.Sun.COM>, stephenj@deblil.Sun.COM (Stephen Johnson) writes: > I have a Dell system 310 (386) with 1 meg at home and it runs MSDOG > 3.2. Is there a version of X windows which will run on this system. Various vendors, including IBM, sell X servers for 386 MSDOS machines. Some of these products are software-only. Others are hardware and software. I know of noone, however, that sells any X client software for MSDOS. You have to run your clients on other machines connected to your MSDOS machine with a network like Ethernet. Ken Lee DEC Western Software Laboratory, Palo Alto, Calif. Internet: klee@decwrl.dec.com uucp: uunet!decwrl!klee
kaleb@mars.jpl.nasa.gov (Kaleb Keithley) (12/06/89)
In article <128822@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> stephenj@deblil.Sun.COM (Stephen Johnson) writes: >I have a Dell system 310 (386) with 1 meg at home and it runs MSDOG >3.2. Is there a version of X windows which will run on this system? > >OR, is it possible to grab the X source and compile it for MSDOG and >the EGA/VGA? Hewlett Packard just annouced an X server that runs on DOS. I don't see how you could just compile MIT with EGA/VGA, because MIT X11R4 relies heavily on sockets, and other UNIX specific stuff like mmap. Not to mention, if you are talking about running both server and clients on the same machine, where to you get a multi-tasking executive. DESQView? The server, as compiled on our Sun, takes over 600Kbytes of disk, and over 1.5Mbytes when it runs. Where do you get that kind of memory under DOS? Note to all flame throwers, I realize that just because it takes 600Kbytes on our Sun, doesn't neccessarily mean it will take that much disk or memory on some brand x machine. Chewey, get us outta here! kaleb@mars.jpl.nasa.gov (818)354-8771 Kaleb Keithley
stephenj@deblil.Sun.COM (Stephen Johnson) (12/07/89)
In article <2340@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov> kaleb@mars.UUCP (Kaleb Keithley) writes: >In article <128822@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> stephenj@deblil.Sun.COM (Stephen Johnson) writes: >>I have a Dell system 310 (386) with 1 meg at home and it runs MSDOG >>3.2. Is there a version of X windows which will run on this system? >> >>OR, is it possible to grab the X source and compile it for MSDOG and >>the EGA/VGA? > >Hewlett Packard just annouced an X server that runs on DOS. I don't see how >you could just compile MIT with EGA/VGA, because MIT X11R4 relies heavily on >sockets, and other UNIX specific stuff like mmap. Software emulation of these features in the DOS environment is possible. I thought that maybe, some great DOS hacker out there might have done this already. > >Not to mention, if you are talking about running both server and clients on >the same machine, where to you get a multi-tasking executive. DESQView? >The server, as compiled on our Sun, takes over 600Kbytes of disk, and over >1.5Mbytes when it runs. Where do you get that kind of memory under DOS? Again, software emulation of the server/client multi-tasking executive might have been done. [This is what DES*View does.] It doesn't seem that difficult. Naturally, it will be very slow, but thats OK. It just has to run, thats all. There are methods (expanded and extended memory) for getting around the MSDOS [brain-damaged] 640k barrier. > >Note to all flame throwers, I realize that just because it takes 600Kbytes on >our Sun, doesn't neccessarily mean it will take that much disk or memory on >some brand x machine. > > > >Chewey, get us outta here! > >kaleb@mars.jpl.nasa.gov (818)354-8771 >Kaleb Keithley Stephen P. Johnson (stephenj@sun.com) | I could be bounded in a Sun Microsystems, Inc. | nutshell and count myself 2550 Garcia Ave., Mountain View, CA 94043 | a king of infinite space
dgh@unify.uucp (David Harrington) (12/07/89)
In article <128822@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> stephenj@deblil.Sun.COM (Stephen Johnson) writes: >I have a Dell system 310 (386) with 1 meg at home and it runs MSDOG >3.2. Is there a version of X windows which will run on this system? > Try Graphics Software Systems in Beaverton, OR. The have X for DOS, and Unix too. -- David Harrington internet: dgh@unify.UUCP Unify Corporation ...!{csusac,pyramid}!unify!dgh 3870 Rosin Court voice: (916) 920-9092 Sacramento, CA 95834 fax: (916) 921-5340
mre@boulder.colorado.edu (Marcus O. Ertle) (12/09/89)
In article <0H5.+VF@unify.uucp> dgh@unify.UUCP (David Harrington) writes: >In article <128822@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> stephenj@deblil.Sun.COM (Stephen Johnson) writes: >> ... Is there a version of X windows which will run on this system? > >Try Graphics Software Systems in Beaverton, OR. The have X for DOS, and Unix >too. >David Harrington internet: dgh@unify.UUCP >Unify Corporation ...!{csusac,pyramid}!unify!dgh Does anyone have the phone # for this company (Graphics Software Systems)? Please e-mail if possible. Thanks, - Marc Ertle NGDC internet: mre@ngdc2.colorado.edu
dgh@unify.uucp (David Harrington) (12/16/89)
In article <14724@boulder.Colorado.EDU> mre@ngdc2.UUCP (Marcus O. Ertle) writes: >In article <0H5.+VF@unify.uucp> dgh@unify.UUCP (David Harrington) writes: >>In article <128822@sun.Eng.Sun.COM> stephenj@deblil.Sun.COM (Stephen Johnson) writes: >>> ... Is there a version of X windows which will run on this system? >> >>Try Graphics Software Systems in Beaverton, OR. The have X for DOS, and Unix >>too. >>David Harrington internet: dgh@unify.UUCP >>Unify Corporation ...!{csusac,pyramid}!unify!dgh > >Does anyone have the phone # for this company (Graphics Software Systems)? >Please e-mail if possible. >Thanks, >- Marc Ertle > NGDC > internet: mre@ngdc2.colorado.edu OK, here it is: Graphics Software Systems 9590 SW Gemini Dr. Beaverton OR 97005-7161 (503) 641-2200 You're the second person to POST a request for a phone number. Why didn't you just pick up the phone, enter 1-503-555-1212, and ASK for the number????!!! It would have been MUCH faster. Sheesh! p.s. Tried to e-mail this mini-flame, but it bounced. -- David Harrington internet: dgh@unify.UUCP Unify Corporation ...!{csusac,pyramid}!unify!dgh 3870 Rosin Court voice: (916) 920-9092 Sacramento, CA 95834 fax: (916) 921-5340