[net.news] Doubled signatures???

gnu@sun.uucp (John Gilmore) (08/14/84)

I see an offal lot of articles with two copies of the signature info,
sometimes the same, sometimes different.  Can anybody tell me what is
going on?  Can we fix it for 2.10.2?  It's painful for those
on 1200 baud terminals as opposed to bitmapped screens -- typically
one copy of the signature is already too much.

In fact, does someone have a hack for vnews that will identify
signature globs and throw them away?  (Or put them in the 'H' command
which you only use if you REALLY care about the header.)

A sample doubled signature follows:

Relay-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83 SMI; site sun.uucp
Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site noscvax.UUCP
Path: sun!decwrl!decvax!mcnc!akgua!sdcsvax!noscvax!sloane
From: sloane@noscvax.UUCP (Gary K. Sloane)
Newsgroups: net.general,net.lang.c,net.unix,net.unix-wizards
Subject: vt220 termcap/.randrc posted to net.sources
Message-ID: <575@noscvax.UUCP>
Date: Fri, 10-Aug-84 14:06:11 PDT
Article-I.D.: noscvax.575
Posted: Fri Aug 10 14:06:11 1984
Date-Received: Sat, 11-Aug-84 12:24:33 PDT
Distribution: net
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center
Lines: 18
Xref: 3699 2274 2261 9042

A termcap and .randrc file (for the Rand editor) have been posted
by myself to net.sources. This is a reposting, due to the frequent
requests I have recieved. If you got it last time, there have been
no changes (:-} it actually works!).

* **************************************************************** *
* Gary K. Sloane/Computer Sciences Corporation/San Diego, CA 92110 *
* DDD: (619) 225-8401                                              *
* MILNET: sloane@nosc                                              *
* UUCP: [ihnp4,akgua,decvax,dcdwest,ucbvax]!sdcsvax!noscvax!sloane *
* **************************************************************** *
-- 
    * **************************************************************** *
    * Gary K. Sloane/Computer Sciences Corporation/San Diego, CA 92110 *
    * DDD: (619) 225-8401                                              *
    * MILNET: sloane@nosc                                              *
    * UUCP: [ihnp4,akgua,decvax,dcdwest,ucbvax]!sdcsvax!noscvax!sloane *
    * **************************************************************** *

dmmartindale@watcgl.UUCP (Dave Martindale) (08/16/84)

That's a GREAT idea!  I would love to have some sort of heuristic in
readnews that would make a guess at what portion of the tail of an article
was the signature, and not show it to me.  There would, of course, be
some instances where it guessed wrong or where I really wanted to check
the signature to see if it contained a useful mail address.  But having
it thrown away most of the time would be worth the extra work of reprinting
the article whenever I really did want to see the last few lines.
(Even at 19200 baud, they are annoying once I've seen the same one
more than twice.)

pmg@aplvax.UUCP (08/21/84)

The problem of double signatures would clear up if there was
some consistency in the automatic inclusion of the .signature
file by the three programs:  mail (using the reply option),
vnews (using the reply or follow-up option), and postnews.

I belive that of these three programs only postnews includes
the .signature file.  Please -- correct me if I am wrong,
I'm just a rookie trying to avoid my double signatures and
NULL signatures.

Thanks,
Mike
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P. Michael Guba
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...rlgvax!cvl!umcp-cs!aplvax!pmg

chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Chuq) (08/23/84)

Actually, postnews DOESN'T install the .signature. Inews does. that means 
that anything going through inews (postnews, followups from vnews or
readnews, or any homebrew interface) will have signatures appended
automatically. I've modified recmail to append signatures automatically as
well for consistency sake (it is used by the reply command of readnews and
vnews). I've just posted that fix for the beta-test version of 2.10.2, but
it is trivial for any previous version as well. The only thing that doesn't
(right now, at least) add it automatically is the regular mailer, mainly
because I'm lazy and I keep meaning to write my own anyway (no, I don't
like Randmail, and I don't like Berkeley mail and I'm too busy/lazy (mostly
lazy) to write chuquimail. so far)

chuq

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