johnl@flash.UUCP (John R. Lee) (02/07/90)
I am looking for a latest X-windows client server for Sequent(DYNIX) computer. I understand that one could obtain a copy from MIT, does any one have information on this? My main objective is to have a PC(386 machine) be a X-terminal that boots from the Sequent main frame. This brings up a question: i need to get a hold of a X-terminal emulator for a PC, any ideas? Thanks in advance! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ johnl%summation.wa.com@RELAY.CS.NET John R. Lee Summation Inc. (206) 823-8688 11335 NE 122nd Way (206) 823-7109 (direct) Kirkland, Wa 98034 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
kempff@hppad.HP.COM (John Kempff) (02/13/90)
>/ hppad:comp.windows.x / johnl@flash.UUCP (John R. Lee) / 7:40 pm Feb 6, 1990 / > > (deleted) >This brings up a question: i need to get a hold of a X-terminal emulator >for a PC, any ideas? > >Thanks in advance! > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >johnl%summation.wa.com@RELAY.CS.NET John R. Lee > Summation Inc. >(206) 823-8688 11335 NE 122nd Way >(206) 823-7109 (direct) Kirkland, Wa 98034 > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >---------- What follows is a data sheet of a product that HP sells. The AXDS/PC product is an X terminal emulator that runs under DOS on your PC. To get more information about this product, contact your local HP sales office. They can quote prices. John Kempff | ## ## | ######## / ######## X Windows Support Eng. | # # | ####### / ####### Panacom Automation Div. | # | ###### /_ __ ###### H E W L E T T Waterloo, Ontario, Canada | # | ##### / / / / ##### | # # | ##### / / /__/ ##### Email:kempff@hppad.hp.com | ## ## | ###### / ###### P A C K A R D Phone:(519) 886-5320 | | ####### / ####### FAX: (519) 886-8620 | TERMINAL | ########/ ######## ----------------------------cut here---------------------------------- ACCELERATED X WINDOW DISPLAY SERVER ---------------------------------- FOR --- THE HP VECTRA PC FAMILY ------------------------ TECHNICAL DATA SHEET ==================== FEATURES --------- o Network access to UNIX(TM) system based X Window applications o X Window System Version 11, Release 3 Support. o Supports up to 256 colors form a palette of 262,143 o Supports panning with root window of 1024x1024 on all monitors. o X-Server graphics performance equivalent to an entry-level diskless workstation o Single keystroke access to the DOS operating system. PRODUCT DESCRIPTION -------------------- The HP Accelerated X Window Display Server (HP AXDS/PC) is a software package that runs on a PC-AT bus compatible personal computers including the HP Vectra PC family. HP AXDS/PC is based on the X Window System Version 11, Release 3 industry- standard graphical user interface. Together with the HP Intelligent Graphics Controller card, it allows a PC to act as an X Window Terminal. HP AXDS/PC gives a PC user access to a X Window applications running on multivendor host computers over a local area network. Applications such as mechanical and electrical design, industrial automation, business UNIX, and computer-aided software engineering can be interactively accesses and simultaneously displayed in multiple windows on a PC using HP AXDS/PC. HP AXDS/PC bridges the gap between DOS and UNIX environments by providing a single keystoke (warm key) that enables access to the DOS operating system while retaining the X Window environment. HP AXDS/PC provides a cost effective means of upgrading and linking the PC into a multivendor computing environment. SUPPORTED PC CONFIGURATIONS. ---------------------------- The HP AXDS/PC software is downloaded to and executed by HP Intelligent Graphics Controller 10 card. It operates on IBM PC-AT bus compatible personal computers including the HP Vectra PC A,A+,A++ (with upgraded ROM BIOS A.01.06),CS, ES, QS and RS family members. HP AXDS/PC requires the PC to include the following minimum components: -------- + MS-DOS or PC-DOS operating system revision 3.1, 3.2, 3.3 or 4.01 + 640 Kbytes of RAM + 5.25-inch (1.2MB high density) or 3.5 (low or high density) flexible disk drive + 6 Mbytes of free hard disk space (to load HP AXDS/PC driver and X11 R2/R3 fonts). + HP A1086A Intelligent Graphics Controller 10 and HP A1085A 0.5MB DRAM kit + LAN card and LAN software. + Color graphics monitor with 640x480, 800x600 or 1024x768 resolution that accepts RGB analog input (sync on green) using RS-343A voltages and display frames per second non-interlaced. + Pointing device. NOTE: HP AXDS/PC is also supported on the HP 82328A Intelligent Graphics Controller. When using the HP 82328A, a 640x480 VGA or 800x600 monitor is not supported. This IGC card gives you only 16 colors and no panning. PC MEMORY ALLOCATION --------------------- 80 Kbytes- DOS Operating system 105 Kbytes- Lan Software (TSR) 105 Kbytes- HP AXDS/PC software ( not a TSR) 350 Kbytes- DOS programs while in warm key mode. When running DOS applications, extended and expanded memory and use of the LAN by DOS applications, has been tested to operate with HP AXDS/PC. ( ie HP AXDS/PC does not make use of extended or expanded memory). PERFORMANCE ----------- HP AXDS/PC is designed to provide graphics performance equivalent to an entry level diskless workstation (2 MIP rated) configured as an X Window display server. The HP AXDS/PC software is executed by the HP Intelligent Graphics Controller 10 card. Performance is therefore not limited by the PC RAM or the type of PC processor. By comparison, most other vendor solutions implement the X Window System display server on a PC as a DOS application. Performance is the limited by the amount of PC RAM available and by the performance of the PC processor. The actual peformance of the HP AXDS/PC will depend upon the number of of active window sessions,volume of network traffic, and the processing power of the host computer that executes the X Window applications. ie Similar constraints that of a diskless workstation. HP Intelligent Graphics Controller 10 card is optimized for high performance 2D graphics and provides for display of up to 256 colors form a palette of 262,144 colors (when equipped for 8-plane grpahics). For non-graphics applications ( eg xterm), the HP A1086A graphics card with 0.5MB of DRAM (A1085A) will normally be sufficient. If there is insufficient RAM, HP AXDS/PC provides a limited virtual memory feature that uses hard disk for additional data storage and retrieval. For graphics applications (eg large pixel maps), the on-board DRAM on the HP Intelligent Graphics Controller 10 card must be expanded to include 1.0 to 2.0MB of DRAM (expanded in 0.5MB increments up to a maximum of 3.5MB) by ordering the HP A1085A DRAM Kit and the HP A1087A Extension Module. |Not in the data sheet but will be in the release. |HP AXDS/PC also supports panning in which case the X-Server is configured |for a display area of 1024x1024 pixels. Although the user sees a |window according to monitor resolution but rest of the offscreen area |can be viewed by simply moving the cursor to edge of the screen. Since |this is done locally on the HP Intelligent Graphics Controller 10 card |the response is instantaneous and without any extra overhead on |clients or PC. This is a big plus for VGA monitor configurations. | |If panning mode is not selected the offscreen VRAM memory is allocated |for use by the server. |Additional VRAM ( 0.5MB thru 1.0MB) cannot be be utilised by server when in |16 Color mode. ORDERDING INFORMATION --------------------- PART NUMBER DESCRIPTION ------------ ----------------------------------------- D2300B HP AXDS/PC Software and fonts on 5.25" and 3.5" media including installation guide. A1086A HP Intelligent Graphics Controller 10 (16 colors from a palette of 262,144 Standard) A1085A 0.5MB DRAM A1087A Extension module Required if you need >0.5MB DRAM or 256 Colors. A1084A 0.5MB VRAM. Support 256 Colors. So if you want 256 colors and 2.0 MB DRAM order. 1 A1086A, 4 A1085A, 1 A1087A, 1 A1084A LAN SOFTWARE 3COM-503 3COM Etherlink II Lan Card ( from 3COM or PC Dealer). PC-220 (V2.03) PL3 PC/TCP LAN Software (V2.04) PL1 from: FTP Software Inc, 26 Princess Street, Wakefield, MA USA 01880-3004 Phone (617) 246 0900 or from a PC dealer. COLOR MONITORS (choose one) D1182A HP 14-inch with 640x480 (Not supported with HP82328A IGC). D1188A HP 16-inch with 1024x768 98785A HP 16-inch with 1024x768 Resolution (No VGA mode). 98751A HP 19-inch with 1024x768 Resolution (No VGA mode). D1187A HP 20-inch with 1024x768 Resoloution POINTING DEVICE 46060A HP_HIL 2 button mouse or Microsoft and Logitech serial and bus mouses (200dpi) have been tested as an alternative pointing devices. ************************************************************************ Additional notes which may be helpful. DOS/X_WINDOW DISPLAY CONFIGURATION ---------------------------------- i) MONITOR +------- D1182A +-----------------------+ / | D1188A | |--------->------/ | D1187A | IGC10 CARD | \________| | |----<--+ +-----------------------+ | DOS and X-WINDOWS | +---------------+ | | | | | VGA CARD |-------+ +---------------+ The IGC10 card is in a pass thru mode for VGA at powerup and running DOS and other applications. When X-Window Server mode the AXDS/PC switches the output from IGC10 to be passed to the monitor. ii) MONITOR +------- D1182A +-----------------------+ / | D1188A | |--------->------/ | D1187A | IGC10 CARD | \________| 98785A | | 98751A +-----------------------+ +---------------+ | CGA,EGA,MGA | +-------+ | or | / | DOS Screen | VGA CARD |------->--------/ | +---------------+ \_________| The IGC10 card is used when X Server is running. Notes: IGC10 comes with DGIS, WIN386 and TIGA drivers. AXDS/PC does not use these drivers. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- HP 82328A IGC card =================== Initial versions of AXDS/PC ie D2300A supported only the HP 82328A card. New versions ie D2300B also supports the HP 82328A although no new features such as 256 colors and Panning are applicable due to h/w limitations. Memory form this card CANNOT be transfered to the IGC10 card. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- MEMORY USUAGE IN AXDS/PC BY TYPICAL X CLIENT The following memory usuage numbers are approx and depends a number of factors eg color allocation, fonts and Xdefaults. CLIENT Memory needed in Server (KBytes) in 256 colors modes -------------------------------------------------------------------- XSERVER 310 MWM 41 HPWM 52 UWM 11 HPTERM 22 XTERM 11 DATEBOOK 365 XPHOON 813 XPHOON (16 Colors) 408 FRAMEMAKER 50 (2 docs, & tool Window) XHPCALC 48 XCALC 68 XBIFF 8 XCLOCK 8 XLOAD 16 The above numbers may vary according to .Xdefaults file, fonts, and colors which are already present in the server. The amount of free memory available at any time is displayed on the DOS screen when <SHIFT>+<CTRL>+<ALT>+<ESC> is pressed. (yes all four keys to-gether). The amount of PC memory usage depends upon number of font files specified in font.dir file in each font path directory. When operating in VGA mode and screen size of 640x480x8planes, a 710K of offscreen memory is freed up for the server. Helpful if you are $$$ constraint. ............................................................................... 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