jw@pan.UUCP (Jamie Watson) (02/10/90)
I've just had a very surprising discussion with someone at the OSF Motif
Help Desk, concerning what is apparently a new policy on support for
Motif licensees, updates, and new releases. I hope that I misunderstood
some of this, but I asked about it several times and was assured that
this is the new policy. Here's the story.
I just got the Motif 1.0.A update tape. Enclosed with the tape was a
letter, which said in part:
You can obtain future updates to Motif 1.0 by purchasing a
Software Support contract from OSF or by relicensing the
technology. Full source support is also available.
There is no other information in the letter about what services are
included in the support contract, or what the price is. I called the
Motif Help Desk for more information. What I was told was:
- There are two different support contracts.
. "Technology", cost $1500/yr, includes updates only - no direct
contact with anyone at OSF for bug reporting or fixes.
. "Full Service", cost $2500/yr, includes updates *and* direct
contact with people at OSF for bug reporting and fixes.
- The Motif bugs mailing list, which I believe has previously been
available to anyone with a Motif license, will only by available
to those with "Full Service" contracts.
- These contract only include updates to the particular release that
you have licensed from OSF - that is currently 1.0; so they would
include future equivalents to the 1.0.1 and 1.0.A updates, which
I received *without* such a contract. They do *NOT* include major
new releases, such as the (rumored) upcoming 1.1 (V11R4 compatible)
release. Major new releases will have to be relicensed, at whatever
the normal price is (i.e. $1000 if they don't raise the price).
I find this to be a very surprising policy. First, the cost of these
support contracts relative to the original cost of the product seems
quite high to me. Second, limiting membership on the bug mailing list
to those who have support contracts seems rather unreasonable. Third,
and most important, charging such high fees and then *not* providing
major new releases seems absolutely ridiculous.
By the way, there was some discussion in this group a while ago about
the OSF actively discouraging people from reporting bugs and fixes to
Motif code here. I wonder if that is related at all to this support
policy; perhaps they want to prevent people from helping each other
in a free forum such as this, to try to force them to pay for support
from OSF?
jwmorris@dms.UUCP (Jim Morris) (02/13/90)
I agree that the support fee is high compared to the source licence
fee. On the other hand the source licence fee ($1000) is incredibly
low!!
(In my opinion, compared to other source licences we have purchased).
I suppose the OSF has to make some money somehow??
After all they are OSF not FSF. :-)
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(Arcade Video Game Manufacturer, NOT Atari Corp. ST manufacturer).fxtv@litp.ibp.fr (F-X TESTARD-VAILLANT) (02/22/90)
Is MOTIF available on Sun? If it is what is the simpler way to get it? Thanks in advance, FX Testard-Vaillant