bill@ssbn.WLK.COM (Bill Kennedy) (03/18/90)
I'm cross posting this to comp.windows.x because SunRiver has a variety of products, and the one I'm reporting on is a dynamite X terminal. Everyone has seen their advertising and I'm sure that it has piqued your curiosity. After all, fiber optics are fast, immune to noise, but does the stuff work? The SunRiver people moved from Mississippi to Austin, TX a while back and I wrangled an invite to go see their stuff. They had five workstations hooked up to a Compaq running SCO Open Desktop, it was impressive! The fifth was especially impressive because the X server runs in the workstation. Pricing and availability isn't firm on that model yet, but it has been shown and I laid eyes and hands on it, so it's real. They have three models I was interested in, monochrome, EGA, and 800x600 VGA. The host adapter supports four workstations and each workstation has a console and three virtual consoles. The workstation itself is a little larger than your average terminal base and it has (in addition to the fiber optic link back to the host) a parallel printer port, and two serial ports, DTE, DB25P and DB9D, just like an AT with COM1/COM2/LPT1. The unit operates just like the native console in 386/ix (and SCO), Alt-SysRq-Fn takes you to vtn and F8 to the main "console". ISC ships the SunRiver device drivers with the base system, that's what I used. Oh yeah, I bought one of the 800x600 VGA models :-) Set up was trivial, had I bought their VGA monitor (I got a better price on an NEC Multisync 2A), it would have been effortless because the pesky little rivet on their tilt & swivel would have fit right into the base. As it was, the rivet interfered with the NEC tilt & swivel base, so I put a couple of blocks of wood taller than their base and set the NEC on that. I had some mechanical fit problems with the 16 bit slot I wanted to put the host adapter in (my motherboard doesn't exactly fit its chassis), so I chose another one and it was done. I used kconfig to make a new kernel and xconfig (have the Xvga man page handy) to set up a unix:1 display. Tell it you are using a Mouse Systems mouse, it's easier than the Logitech. Also, don't forget that the DB9 connector is the second port. After the new kernel boots you have to edit /etc/inittab to get the gettys running and you're on your way. SunRiver says (and documents) that there are some VGA's and EGA's that won't work with their workstations. Those are the ones who can not be temporarily (*REAL* temporarily, only during a physical I/O event!) disabled or switched to the secondary display. Naturally my Orchid ProDesigner PLUS tested as incompatible, but it worked anyway. There's a bonus in this if your native VGA (like mine) does grey scale instead of color in VP/ix. The native VGA stays grey scale, but the SunRiver does color just like you think it should. The color fidelity is excellent, the display is sharp and flicker free. The new model (the one that runs the server) is 1024x768, mine is 800x600. I can see no difference whatsoever (other than the resolution) between the performance of the native console and the SunRiver. It's just like having another regular console but it can be at considerable distance from the system. I needed an X capable workstation on the next floor up. The performance in X windows is entirely adequate, the SunRiver unit even has a speaker so you get noise when you would on the console. That was a lot of words, let's get to the bottom line. I got a developer discount because I'm a developer. With tax, title, tags, and dealer prep I'm out just over $1,600 which includes the NEC monitor purchased separately. I also have spigots for three more, knock off $700 for each additional since you already have the host adapter. Your mileage may vary, I don't know if they have educational discounts. Nonetheless, I was looking at an X terminal and a monochrome model was going to run me ~$2400 plus an ethernet card and TCP/IP, then ~$2400 for any additional stations, all monochrome. The figure I quoted was for plug-n-play, fiber optic cable included. It's a really cost effective way to add X stations if you don't have another reason to have/want ethernet. The only thing I've found that doesn't work right is a DOS game that doesn't work very well under VP/ix anyway. Do I like it? I *LOVE* it! I'm using it to post this article. Given what I saved in money and grief over an ethernet/X-terminal, I might get another one :-) I have no affiliation with SunRiver, other than as a satisfied customer, but you can reach them at uunet!sunriv!dickb. That might not be the right person, but Dick will steer you the right way. Oh, I almost forgot... If you send for their propaganda with a bingo card, you'll get the usual stuff, no price/models/availability, I suggest using email if you are really interested. I don't know what terms they offer or anything, I just wrote 'em a check and walked out with one under my arm. They're good people too. I had some cockpit problems and their tech support got me back on the rails in moments. They're still small enough so that you don't get hours on hold and you get an analyst who knows the product. Good people, good product, cost effective alternative to a color X station. Thanks for the read. -- Bill Kennedy usenet {texbell,att,cs.utexas.edu,sun!daver}!ssbn!bill internet bill@ssbn.WLK.COM or attmail!ssbn!bill