ges@stiatl.UUCP (Gerald Sullivan) (05/04/90)
Has anyone out there attended the "Roeder X Window Seminar series" by Hands on Learning Corp.? If so, what is your opinion of it? Any opinions on other X training seminars would also be welcome. I need to get up to speed as fast as possible. I have never used X but I have done some Mac programming. Thanks, -- Jerry Sullivan gatech!stiatl!ges Sales Technologies, Inc | These opinions, if any, are mine and only mine. 3399 Peachtree Rd, NE | Stop the War on the Constitution. Atlanta, GA (404) 841-4000 | I am a big boy, I don't need big brother. Do you?
harden@ICS.COM (Aub Harden) (05/10/90)
In article <9982@stiatl.UUCP> ges@stiatl.UUCP (Gerald Sullivan) writes: >Has anyone out there attended the "Roeder X Window Seminar series" by >Hands on Learning Corp.? If so, what is your opinion of it? > >Any opinions on other X training seminars would also be welcome. I need to >get up to speed as fast as possible. When shopping for X training (or any training for that matter) you should think about some of the following: (I've included comments on Hands-on (based on their current literature) and Integrated Computer Solutions' courses.) Is the course format lecture or lab? The Hands-on course is lecture, demonstration, discussion. ICS courses are lecture & lab. Half your time is spent actually programming. We run labs with a max of 2 people/station. We have 20 Sony workstations (8 plane color) which we use in lab. Does the course focus on toolkit programming, or on Xlib? The Hands-on course is three days. Only during last of the three days is the toolkit covered explicitly. Much of their first day is basically a 'Using X' course. ICS focuses on the toolkit. Only after toolkit basics are covered do we get into Xlib programming. Our goal is to reduce the X learning curve from 3 months to 2 weeks. How much programming experience do the instructors have? How much teaching experience do the instructors have? Hands-on instructors generally have quite a bit of teaching experience. I don't know how much programming they do. ICS instructors are programmers when they're not teaching. They have from one to five years of teaching experience. (Teaching an average of one week a month.) Then there are logistic considerations such as location and price... I don't know what Hands-on offers. ICS courses are offered every month, alternating between Boston and the Silicon Valley areas. We're expensive, but worth it:-) For more info on ICS training, contact Linda Drukman at 'linda@ics.com', or at the phone/fax numbers below. Our courses currently include 'Programming X', 'Programming OSF/Motif', 'Motif UIL', and 'Widget Writing'. -Aub Harden *********************************************************************** * * * Integrated Computer Solutions, Inc. | Everything you wanted to * * 163 Harvard Street | know about X but were * * Cambridge, MA 02139 | afraid to ask... * * * * voice: 617/547-0510 fax: 617/547-0758 e-mail: info@ics.com * * * * The X Window System Specialists * ***********************************************************************