peter@arizona.edu@catuc.UUCP (02/06/87)
We'd like to get a copy of X-windows. Can you tell us how? Thanks Peter Collins, Computer Automation, Inc.
jg@jumbo.UUCP (02/07/87)
In article <8702061621.AA05850@arizona.arizona.edu> peter@arizona.edu@catuc.UUCP writes: > >We'd like to get a copy of X-windows. Can you tell us how? > >Thanks >Peter Collins, Computer Automation, Inc. Release 4 of the X window system is now available, based on V10 of the X protocol. This is the LAST release of X based on V10 of the protocol; work is progressing steadily on the Version 11 implementation and you may expect to hear from us in a few months about this. This release will run on the Digital VS-1, VS-2, VS-2/RC under Ultrix 1.2, the DEC VS100 under 4.3BSD, most Sun Microsystems workstations under 3.0, Apollo Computer workstations under 9.2, Integrated Solutions workstations under 3.07, and the IBM RT/PC under ACIS 4.2A release 2 (Not under AIX). X is also being commercially supported and sold by a number of computer manufacturers; you should contact them for availability. MIT does not "support" this distribution; however bugs and fixes and new code are gratefully accepted. This release also includes 3 user interface toolkits for developers who may need to use one before Version 11. Please read the files Toolkit/README and Toolkit/preface before making wide use of these. To order a distribution, send a CHECK for U.S. $100 to: MIT Microcomputer Center MIT 11-209 77 Massachusetts Avenue Cambridge, Massachusetts, 02139 (617) 253-6325 Purchase orders will NOT be accepted. The distribution will come on a single 9 track 1600BPI tape written in Unix tar(1) format, along with a single copy of printed documentation. Other distribution media or formats are NOT available. Distributions are also available from "zap.mit.edu" (18.72.0.126) on the Internet, via anonymous FTP. MEMORANDUM To: Users of the X version 10 release 4 tape Subject: user interface toolkit availability Since the last release of the X Window System, there have been several groups working on programmer's toolkits, layered above Xlib. There is a recognized need for more functions that provide common user interface building blocks for applications, of which XMenu was a start. M.I.T has received copies of several such `user interface toolkits' in the past month. There is considerable similarity in these projects; i.e. they all offer the most common `widgets'; titlebars, scrollbars, command buttons, etc. Each has some particular feature that may make it more suitable for a particular application than the others. We would prefer to have a single unified toolkit that combines all the best features of these several examples (and some ideas that we haven't yet seen implemented), and we are starting a process with the various implementors to work toward that goal. In the meantime, we are distributing the existing toolkits as `user-contributed software' so that developers don't have to re-invent as many wheels. Of course, those of you building commercial products may wish to take appropriate measures to insure future supportability of your products. Each of the toolkits in this distribution is distributed with source. We know that there are many of you out there faced with the decision whether or not to implement your own toolkit before you can write that favorite application. The toolkits that are on the distribution tape will save many of you a great deal of effort in implementing user interfaces, but we do want to caution you to expect these toolkits to change as we progress to our goal of convergence. Changes from release 3 to release 4 of X There is device dependent code for the Apollo, Integrated Solutions, and IBM RT/PC displays. The Sun implementation has been improved, but is not yet complete. The IBM RT/PC implementation has a reasonably complete implementation which could be used to fill out the Sun graphics implementation, but we had no manpower to do so. Release 4 of the system will be the LAST based on Version 10 of the X protocol. New: libapollo device dependent code for Apollo workstations Our thanks to the Mark Swanson at the University of Utah and Doug Orr for this work. Due to problems in Apollo's preprocessor, installation may be painful. libibm device dependent code for IBM RT/PC workstation. Our thanks to Daniel Stone, Mike Braca, Dave Bundy at Brown University IRIS for this work. NOTE: This runs under IBM ACIS 4.2 Release 2 ONLY, not under AIX. libsun device dependent code for the SUN workstations. Thanks to Paul Borman of Cray Research for the latest keyboard fixes. libis device dependent code for Integrated Solutions display. xtrek addictive game; requires shared memory, so not all machines can run it, though all can participate. Blame Chris Guthrie (chris@ic.berkeley.edu). showimg nice imageing program for color displays. primarily here to give examples. xcolors program to help figure out what colors to use xperfmon performance monitor for Unix. Toolkit 3 user interface toolkits for prototyping purposes. Thanks to John Osterhaut at Berkeley for Sx, Frank Hall's Corvallis Workstation Group in Hewlett-Packard for Xrlib and Ram Rao's engineering group in DEC for DECToolkit. Improved: X Bug fixes. Not many, as server is very stable. Stipple fill, but not really blessed, as not available everywhere. Xlib A few bug fixes, a few new routines. xterm major new version courtesy of Ed Moy at Berkeley. Can you say "Kitchen Sink"? Scrollbars, titlebars, 4015 emulation, etc. doc/Xlib bug fixes. doc/Paper TOG paper on X. Explains much that has been obscure. man/* updated for new arguments. XMenu bug fixes in callback stuff. bitmap line, circle drawing added. xwd xwud improved to deal with color better. No longer stores images off screen, so works all the time on implementations with little offscreen memory. Enjoy! 23-Dec-1986 Jim Gettys Ralph R. Swick MIT Project Athena
idall@augean.OZ.AU.UUCP (05/01/87)
I have read a little about X-windows in the network news but my understanding of what it is is a bit fuzzy. Any information would be appreciated but I would in particular like to know: 1) What it can do. Presumably it manages windows (!) Does it provide a user interface to for example create, move, remove and change the size of windows, or is it a more primative layer which a user interface can sit on top of? Does it define a graphics interface so that graphics applications can be written for X with no further knowlege of the hardware involved? 2) What Unices it works under and how difficult it would be to port it to others. 3) How dependant it is on the graphics hardware and whether it is difficult to port it to different hardware. 4) How much software is available for X. I have a NS ICM 3216 based system which I would like to run X or something similar on. I have not acquired any graphics hardware yet so the need is not all that urgent! Thanks. Ian Dall Department of Electrical and Electronic Engineering University of Adelaide GPO Box 498 Adelaide 5001 AUSTRALIA Email: idall@augean.OZ
dgeiger@DECWRL.DEC.COM (Dorothy Geiger) (10/11/88)
I need some information on X-Windows (X-11) in the MS-DOS environment and was told that you might be able to help me out. I have a friend who is currently operating in an MS-DOS environment and will eventually be moving to a UNIX environment. He's currently developing some applications for which X-11 would seem appropriate, and would like to get a look at it (in his current MS-DOS) environment and potentially begin developing applications which would be portable to the UNIX environment. Could you perhaps provide pointers to a.) reading materials; b.) products/ implementations available in the MS-DOS environment; c.) general utility/ robustness/implementation quality? Any information/pointers/help would be greatly appreciated. Please send replys to dgeiger@decwrl.dec.com, since the friend in question has yet to enter the world of electronic communications. Thanks much!! dorothy geiger
mlau@hpspcoi.HP.COM (Milton Lau) (01/03/90)
Hi! Does anyone know where I could get a copy of the HP version of X-Windows Server software for MSDOS conectivity to HPUX windows ? I know there is a PC-Xsight by Locus but I am looking for the HP version that I know exists. Don't know the Part number or where to get it. DOes anybody know ?? Thanks in advance, mlau@hpspcoi.hp.com - another day, another doller -
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I've been using X Windows R3 with awm for a couple of months now and generally I think its an improvment over SunView but: 1. How do I get xterm to use an icon that i've made using the bitmap editor? With Sunview I had various (DIY) icons for my shell and command tools, I'd like to do this with X. 2. Is it possible to use a different screen saver? I quite like the idea of having xfish come up in inverse after no screen activity for say 5 minutes. (its a shame thats I can't run it as my background, but on a Sun 3/50 with only 4 MBytes -- Leave it out Jon!) 3. Are there any other window managers in the public domain (awm?) which look/feel a bit jazzier than awm (Someone on site has Sun's NeWS but it sure shags his machine, but the interface looks quite natty... good even!). 4. Have I posted this to the wrong newsgroup (its my first posting) 5 Is there any where else where I can look for X begginers stuff?? Answers please on the back of a camel to the geezer at the bottom here. The 1st 100 lucky winners draw out of a hat get to have any two members of the cast of Neighbours, Corination Street or Dallas impaled on a sharp spikey thingey of their choice.. JUstin Myatt Remember: "Kippers of the Monotype International Software world unite, you have nothing Salfords, Redhill, Surrey, RH1 5JP to loose bar your Soles!" England... Tel: +44 737 768644 . . . . 0--////--/ . 0--////--/ . 0--////--/ ./ | ./ | ./ | \__\\\\\--\ \__\\\\\--\ \__\\\\\--\