[comp.windows.x] PD Xt widgets wanted

daven@wpi.wpi.edu (David N Nedde) (06/09/90)

After much effort, I am going to give up:

I'm writing an X program and want to use Xt widgets.  However, if
my program is not easy for users to install, it will not get wide 
distribution. I am assuming that users would have X and Xt.
So, I need a widget toolkit that:
  - Is easily and legally distributable with my source code
  - Doesn't use C++
  - Is easy to separate and distribute a subset of widgets with my code

I have looked into various toolkits:
  InterViews - Uses C++
  Motif - Requires source license
  Xt+ - Where can I get this? Does it require a license?
  Public Domain Widget Library - Cannot get response from server at
    gatech!stiatl!xwidget and gatech!stiatl!meo (Miles O'Neal)
    is an invalid address.  Any other pointers to PDWL would be appreciated.
  Andrew toolkit - This doesn't use Xt

I am about to rip apart xfig and/or tgif, but I was really interested in
using widgets on top of Xt.

I'll post a summary if I get any info.
--
daven@maxine.wpi.edu
Dave Nedde, Computer Science Dept
Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Worcester, MA

meo@rsiatl.UUCP (Miles ONeal) (06/11/90)

daven@wpi.wpi.edu (David N Nedde) writes:

>  Public Domain Widget Library - Cannot get response from server at
>    gatech!stiatl!xwidget and gatech!stiatl!meo (Miles O'Neal)
>    is an invalid address.  Any other pointers to PDWL would be appreciated.

1) I'm no longer there, couldn't take it with me, and it's probably
   not there anymore, either.

2) Only two widgets ever showed up - the checkbox widget and
   an iconbutton widget, both of which were also placed in
   comp.sources.x. One library, the CU widget lib, showed up.

3) Due to much political hassle and lawyer posturing, after being
   led to believe we could post some neat stuff we had developed,
   my employer at the time decided NOTHING could be posted that
   had been developed on their systems, no matter whose time it
   was developed on, etc. I got called on the carpet for posting
   * 5 lines * of code relating to something really basic, like
   how to create a cursor or something similar. At this point I
   refused to use another single line of code from the net while
   at that company. When they hinted about not even answering
   general questions about X, just to be sue I didn't accidentally
   give away something proprietary, I offered to quit reading
   comp.windows.x, and have my team do the same - at that point
   they backed off a bit from that tack, at least.

4) There were serious mail problems anyway, and most of the
   responses I did generate seemed to bounce. All in all it was
   a miserable mess, and I apologize to everyone (I've said all
   this before).

I am trying to recover the documentation I had there, at least, and
am working on some widgets on my own time, on a non-company system
(even though I doubt my current employer would care, why take chances
again. eh?) for which I pay for the time I use, so I KNOW it's mine.

This time, I say nothing about availability or location until I
have something real in hand.

SO, why did so little show up? Is nobody else developing widgets?
Do you think nobody cares about your widgets? Are your employers
also getting greedy?

-Miles O'Neal

emory!rsiatl!meo      uunet!rsiatl!meo


Moral: Be sure up front how your employer feels about your use
of the net! Get it in writing, if possible, signed by a real
company officer, with witnesses, notarized.  .013 8^)