dww@stl.UUCP (David Wright) (09/06/85)
20 replies so far (pretty good for 2 days!) - 19 YES + 1 abstain. Much too soon to consider any result final, but when there's been enough time I'll post a summary in accord with recent suggestions on how to ensure a fair count. Reason for this posting is that 2 voters have suggested 2-way gatewaying of net.vms with the ARPA INFO-VAX (fa.info-vax) or (the proposed?) INFO-VMS and I don't know how to do such a thing - it's presumably possible. Because stl is not on the ARPANET I cannot even reply to one of them (I've tried, but I can't find a route that will accept it). Note that we (and most other USENET sites I know) cannot post to fa. groups, which is one reason why I don't think fa.info-vax as it is at present is adequate for vms news. A lot of non-ARPA people have useful info/experience/solutions/SW for VMS too. So has anyone anything useful to suggest about two-way gatewaying? Especially, can anyone out there perform such a function? Copy of the 2 messages on ARPA gatewaying follow: ================================================================================ From stc!mcvax!seismo!allegra!mp Thu Sep 5 07:51:10 1985 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 85 18:30:28 EDT Subject: Re: New group net.vms - VOTE yes, I'd like a net.vms. There's been talk of changing INFO-VAX (the arpa counterpart of fa.info-vax) into 2 lists: INFO-VAX to discuss vax-related issues independent of OS, and INFO-VMS. It would be nice to have net.vms gateway into INFO-VMS; it would also let me return to reading INFO-VAX faithfully again. ================================================================================ From control@almsa-1.arpa Thu Sep 5 01:51:13 1985 Date: Wed, 4 Sep 85 12:33:26 CDT Subject: Re: New group net.vms - VOTE I vote "yes", but ONLY on the following condition -- that at the same time "fa.info-vax" is eliminated AND a full two-way USENET-to-ARPA gateway between the ARPA Info-Vax mailing list and net.vms is set up. That is, there is to be no transition time or intervening time when there is some independent net.vms traffic that does not appear on the ARPA side in Info-Vax. If this cannot be done, I would vote "no", and recommend you simply use the existing Info-Vax list by mailing submissions to it, the same as you would participate in any other "fa" group on USENET. Will Martin US Army Materiel Command ALMSA
lauren@vortex.UUCP (Lauren Weinstein) (09/07/85)
Once again, I emphasize that people will almost never vote AGAINST a newsgroup unless they have some particular gripes. You always tend to get almost all YES votes since only people who are interested usually reply. The results are automatically skewed to make it look like "most respondents" are in favor. Note that the ARPA VMS list has been getting extremely voluminous lately. If you gateway that in, you're instantly opening up a pile of new traffic and sending it all over this net. --Lauren--