[comp.windows.x] Why doesn't xterm -e rlogin us

phil@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (09/23/90)

Why would you want to run rlogin (usually TWO processes) if it works to
simply run xterm on the remote host?

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mouse@LARRY.MCRCIM.MCGILL.EDU (09/24/90)

> Why would you want to run rlogin (usually TWO processes) if it works
> to simply run xterm on the remote host?

Well, the remote xterm doesn't always work, but that wasn't the
question you asked.  (And sometimes, even though a terminal emulator is
available remotely, one wants the local one for some reason - as, for
example, if the local machine is a DECstation, the remote is a Sun, and
one wants some feature that only dxterm has.)

Why?  Well, in my experience at least, it distributes the load
differently.  Running a terminal emulator on machine A and an rlogin
from A to B within it loads B less than running the emulator directly
on B.  If B is slower than A this means that the rlogin is a win.
(Presumably if B is loaded less then A is loaded more, but A was enough
faster than B in my case that I didn't notice any difference on A.)

					der Mouse

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(Rlogin also allows one to suspend the rlogin and return to the "local"
host, though presumably one could just start a local window.)

petej@ssg0.pharmacia.com (Peter M. Jansson) (09/24/90)

In article <9009231709.AA03212@Larry.McRCIM.McGill.EDU> mouse@LARRY.MCRCIM.MCGILL.EDU writes:
>> Why would you want to run rlogin (usually TWO processes) if it works
>> to simply run xterm on the remote host?
>
>Well, the remote xterm doesn't always work, but that wasn't the

On my system, at least two programs (telnet and u386mon) don't display
the characters unless run through an rlogin on an xterm.  That is, I
start X and I get an xterm (it's release 3, so I don't have xdm); to
get the dynamic, near-real-time status display from u386mon, I have to
do an rlogin.  Doesn't matter if I'm trying to get a display of the
local system or a remote system.

On the other hand, my rlogin doesn't seem to recognize SIGWINCH, so I
can't resize any windows.  Therefore, I occaisionally use rlogin for
those two programs, and just use an xterm otherwise.

	Pete.