matsumot@ADS.COM (Michael Matsumoto) (09/21/90)
Does anyone out there in X land have much experience running the Motif window manager in conjunction with a OpenWindows server? We have been instructed to use Motif style, but run applications packages that currently only come in SunView or OpenLook implementations. This seems to me to be at least dangerous, if not just impossible. Is this half-hearted compromise feasible? Thanks. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Matsumoto | matsumot@ads.com |"X? If it can't be done in Advanced Decision Systems | | Emacs and two buffers, it Mountain View, CA | (415) 960-7453 | doesn't need to be done."
cflatter@ZIA.AOC.NRAO.EDU (Chris Flatters) (09/21/90)
> Does anyone out there in X land have much experience running the Motif > window manager in conjunction with a OpenWindows server? We have been > instructed to use Motif style, but run applications packages that > currently only come in SunView or OpenLook implementations. This > seems to me to be at least dangerous, if not just impossible. Is this > half-hearted compromise feasible? This should be possible. I don't see any reason why running OPEN LOOK clients under mwm (which I haven't tried) should be any more difficult than running them under twm (which I have tried) and your SunView applications will not give a damn what window manager you are using since they will just blow away X on those parts of the screen they use. It is not really clear from the above what you mean by using OSF/Motif style. If you are developing clients that conform to the OSF/Motif GUI it would make sense for you to use the Motif window manager, at least while you are testing and debugging your clients. If you are not doing development work and are just running applications, running OPEN LOOK clients under mwm will not make them Motif style --- they will still be OPEN LOOK clients but will have Motif window decoration --- but will deny them OPEN LOOK functionality that requires on the cooperation of the window manager. In this case your boss' instructions look pretty dumb. If the majority of your applications follow the OPEN LOOK GUI then it doesn't make much sense to use anything other than an OPEN LOOK window manager (unless you are a religious fanatic on the subject of window managers). Similarly, if the majority of your applications use Motif it makes little sense not to use the Motif window manager. Chris Flatters
jwade@trc.amoco.com (Joe M. Wade) (10/02/90)
In article <9009211608.AA07171@zia.aoc.nrao.edu>, cflatter@ZIA.AOC.NRAO.EDU (Chris Flatters) writes: |> |> This should be possible. I don't see any reason why running OPEN LOOK |> clients under mwm (which I haven't tried) should be any more difficult |> than running them under twm (which I have tried) and your SunView |> applications will not give a damn what window manager you are using since |> they will just blow away X on those parts of the screen they use. |> I agree with the point here, but on the related subject: Is there any way to tell these other window managers that you would like all OPEN LOOK pinnable windows to come up full size (as opposed to iconic) ? I have noticed that if you start any OPEN LOOK application in iconic mode, this applies to all pinnable windows which that application may bring up, whether the pin is in or out. Is there any way to get around this behaviour other than not bringing the application up iconic to begin with? I have observed this behaviour using both mwm and twm under OpenWindows2.0 on a SS1+. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Joe M. Wade (jwade@trc.amoco.com) (918) 660-4387 * * Amoco Research Center * 4502 E. 41st St. * Tulsa, OK 74102 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Don't shoot me, I'm only the programmer... * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *