brian@digi-g.UUCP (Merlyn Leroy) (05/23/85)
[argh] There are two different sites named 'cfib' and 'cfiB' !? Also olympus and Olympus. Paths are: ...ihnp4!ima!cfib! ...ihnp4!masscomp!sii!cfiB! ...ihnp4!dual!olympus! ...ihnp4!vax135!Olympus! I don't think case-sensitive sitenames should be encouraged. I mean, what is this, 'C' or something? Merlyn Leroy
honey@down.FUN (Peter Honeyman) (05/29/85)
i use the -i flag in pathalias to eliminate these potential ambiguities. peter
dbr@cybvax0.UUCP (Douglas Robinson) (05/29/85)
In article <612@digi-g.UUCP> brian@digi-g.UUCP (Merlyn Leroy) writes: > > There are two different sites named 'cfib' and 'cfiB' !? > Also olympus and Olympus. > > Paths are: >...ihnp4!ima!cfib! >...ihnp4!masscomp!sii!cfiB! >...ihnp4!dual!olympus! >...ihnp4!vax135!Olympus! > This sort of thing should be VERY discouraged. Uppercase sitenames can cause all sorts of trouble. We currently talk to a site that has two uppercase letters and three lowercase letters and a number in their name. When mail to them from elsewhere on the net was returned by my machine I was asked to look into the problem. It seemed that somewhere in the path that the sender was using, a site was LOWERCASING the entire path so that when it got to my site, sendmail rejected it since we don't talk to any site by the ALL LOWERCASE name. I found another path that the sender could use and haven't heard about the problem since then. It would be nice if ALL sites would upgrade their software to fix such problems, but until they do, users will still have problems when trying to communicate with UnUsUaL SitENaMes. Having two sites that differ only by case distinct names only furthur aggrevates the situation. -- Doug Robinson Jobs don't kill programmers... programmers kill jobs! 617/492-8810 ...!{mit-eddie, harvard, mirror}!cybvax0!dbr
arash@jendeh.UUCP (Arash Farmanfarmaian) (05/31/85)
> [argh] > There are two different sites named 'cfib' and 'cfiB' !? > Also olympus and Olympus. > > Paths are: > ...ihnp4!ima!cfib! > ...ihnp4!masscomp!sii!cfiB! > ...ihnp4!dual!olympus! > ...ihnp4!vax135!Olympus! > > I don't think case-sensitive sitenames should be encouraged. > I mean, what is this, 'C' or something? > > Merlyn Leroy Looks like its my night to bitch on the net. It has been caused by on overindulgeance in champagne, to celebrate the end of the school year in Princeton. Any way, even though I just bitched about the use of Fortran and even Basic (arghhhhh!!) on UNIX, I still think I should pick a bone of contention with Merlyn. Pascal ( at least some of you people out there must have heard about it ) IS case sensitive ( at least I have always seen it as such) and I do believe that 'C' should be so too. At least variable names and site names should be so. I am not going to profess any love for Pascal based languages ( especially after having worked on a stupid version called TPL, which is marketed by Texas Instrument ). Nonetheless I do believe that case sensitivity, especially in a non-programming-language context like news is worth it. Arash Farmanfarmaian'85 P.S.: On this machine e-mail has NOT been re-directed to /dev/null. So any flames are welcome. But do expect them to be answred with venom. And just to fuel to fire let me say something else. I think APL is a viable programming language ( don't bother flamming on this one, unless you have tried to implement any algorithm involving loops, WITHOUT LOOPING in APL, and have succeeded. For your information there is an argument running around the Civil Engineering Department here to the effect that any algorithm can be implemented without looping in APL. No one has been able to prove this; but after sucessfully implementing the 'shortest path', 'any path' and a version of the 'traveling salesman' problem without any looping, in APL, I believe this assertion -- Arash Farmanfarmaian ...!allegra!princeton!jendeh!arash "Any man who lives within his means suffers from a lack of imagination"
arash@jendeh.UUCP (Arash Farmanfarmaian) (05/31/85)
> i use the -i flag in pathalias to eliminate these potential ambiguities. > peter Sorry Peter. I have difficulty groking your last posting. The only pathalias I know off is the 'pathaliases'-related one. Can you drop another hint in this direction? Arash Farmanfarmaian'85 -- Arash Farmanfarmaian ...!allegra!princeton!jendeh!arash "Any man who lives within his means suffers from a lack of imagination"
johnl@ima.UUCP (06/03/85)
Sites "cfib" and "cfiB" are in fact the same site, and the all lower case name is the true one. They changed their name about a year ago exactly because some mailers (including the one at ima, for reasons that make it complicated to change) do not distinguish case. The two [Oo]lympuses I couldn't say, but while we're discussing poorly chosen site names, I have to nominate site "x" at CRDS. Evidently it's supposed to be an internal name only, but its name escapes in news all the time. John Levine, ima!johnl