[comp.windows.x] Real-Time Widgets Needed!

amccutchen@nasamail.nasa.GOV (ALAN MCCUTCHEN) (10/11/90)

WIDGETS! - WIDGETS! - I NEED WIDGETS!

I'm looking for some widgets to be used in a process control system's GUI.
Needed are real-time stripcharts, barcharts, meters ...  It'd be great
if all these were available in the public domain, but if anyone knows of
commercial widget libraries that are for sale somewhere, I'd at least like
to know about them too. I'm kind of new to the X world, so no reference is
too stale.  --   Much thanx in advance.

Please reply to:   amccutchen@nasamail.nasa.gov


Alan McCutchen                    amccutchen@nasamail.nasa.gov
Harris Space Systems Corporation  407-633-3835  FAX 407-633-3900
                                                                                

asente@adobe.com (Paul Asente) (10/12/90)

In article <UJJA-2911-3217@nasamail> amccutchen@nasamail.nasa.GOV (ALAN MCCUTCHEN) writes:
>I'm looking for some widgets to be used in a process control system's GUI.
>Needed are real-time stripcharts, barcharts, meters ...  

There's a generalized graph widget in the examples for "X Window System
Toolkit" by me and Ralph Swick.  You can get the code from expo or gatekeeper
as contrib/asente-swick.examples.tar.Z

	-paul asente

New address!	asente@adobe.com	...decwrl!adobe!asente

amccutchen@nasamail.nasa.GOV (ALAN MCCUTCHEN) (10/13/90)

Thanks to those who responded to my inquiry about widgets.
Still eager to hear about more widgets for graphically representing
dynamic data values.

Seems like I'm not alone in needing these kinds of doodads.
A number of people asked me to post the responses, so here goes ...


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>Date: Thu, 11 Oct 90 00:01:36 PDT
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>To: amccutchen@nasamail.nasa.GOV
>Subject: Re: Real-Time Widgets Needed!
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>In article <UJJA-2911-3217@nasamail> you write:
>>I'm looking for some widgets to be used in a process control system's GUI.
>>Needed are real-time stripcharts, barcharts, meters ...  It'd be great
>>if all these were available in the public domain, but if anyone knows of
>>commercial widget libraries that are for sale somewhere, I'd at least like
>>to know about them too. I'm kind of new to the X world, so no reference is
>>too stale.  --   Much thanx in advance.
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>I have a nice barchart widget that you can have, but like most other
>X things it isn't public domain.  It is free, but it has a number
>of copyrights on it.
>--
>#...David Elliott
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>To: amccutchen%nasamail.nasa.gov@RELAY.CS.NET
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>Subject: Re: Real-Time Widgets Needed!
>Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
>Organization: Concurrent Computer Corp. Westford MA.
>Date: Thu, 11 Oct 90 09:01:27 EDT
>From: The Fire-breathing Penguin <black%westford.ccur.com@RELAY.CS.NET>
>Message-Id:  <9010110901.aa27366@athena.westford.ccur.com>
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>>I'm looking for some widgets to be used in a process control system's GUI.
>>Needed are real-time stripcharts, barcharts, meters ...
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>X is inherently non-real-time, so whatever widgets you end up using will merely
>be display widgets instead of real-time widgets.  I'm currently working on a
>project called RealTimeX, which involves extensive server modifications and a
>protocol extension.  If you want more information, there is a paper in the
>proceedings of Xhibition '90 (The Application of Real-Time Paradigms to the
>X Window System).  Or, you can send mail to me.  Or both.
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>               - sam
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>P.S.   Unfortunately, the first release of RealTimeX will not include
>       real-time widgets, but we have another project (based on our
>       Laboratory Workbench product) going on here which will.
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>Date: Thu, 11 Oct 90 11:37:28 EDT
>To: amccutchen@nasamail.nasa.gov
>Subject: Real-Time Widgets Needed!
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>Please send mail or post if you come up with anything.
>There are two toolkit packages typically used in the process control
>area, DV-TOOLS from VI Corporation, and SL-GMS from SL (Sheril Lubinsky Inc).
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>Neither of these provide "Widgets" however that work at the XT level.
>In the MITECH product RTAC we currently use DV-TOOLS for graphics
>presentation Operators/Interface, but we are currently implementing
>some widgets because of the increased flexibility. Right now I have
>a simple X-Y plot that gets updated by a XTCLOCK procedure.
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>-gjc
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>Date: 11 Oct 90 22:36:38 GMT
>From: adobe!asente@decwrl.dec.com  (Paul Asente)
>Organization: Adobe Systems Inc.
>Subject: Re: Real-Time Widgets Needed!
>Message-Id: <7321@adobe.UUCP>
>References: <UJJA-2911-3217@nasamail>
>Sender: xpert-request@expo.lcs.mit.edu
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>In article <UJJA-2911-3217@nasamail>
>           amccutchen@nasamail.nasa.GOV (ALAN MCCUTCHEN) writes:
>>I'm looking for some widgets to be used in a process control system's GUI.
>>Needed are real-time stripcharts, barcharts, meters ...
>
>There's a generalized graph widget in the examples for "X Window System
>Toolkit" by me and Ralph Swick.  You can get the code from expo or gatekeeper
>as contrib/asente-swick.examples.tar.Z
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>       -paul asente
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>New address!   asente@adobe.com        ...decwrl!adobe!asente
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>From: Flemming Sylvest Johansen <fsj%sanfran@cricph.dk>
>Subject: Re: Real-Time Widgets Needed!
>To: amccutchen%nasamail.nasa.gov@dkuug.dk (ALAN MCCUTCHEN) (ALAN MCCUTCHEN)
>Date: Fri, 12 Oct 90 8:57:30 MET
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>I don't know of any machine-readble source, but you could check out
>this book:
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>        "X Window Systems - Programming and Applications with Xt"
>        Douglas A. Young, Prentice Hall, 1989.
>        (A Motif edition also exists)
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>The section on creating new widgets contains full source code for a dial
>widget. I haven't personally tested this particular example, but the rest
[B[B[B[B[B>of the rest of the book is excellent.
>
>        regards
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>To: amccutchen@nasamail.nasa.gov
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>Subject: Re: Real-Time Widgets Needed!
>Date: Fri, 12 Oct 90 13:47:38 BST
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>I wrote a real-time stripchart widget for a client of ours
>who is using it in a process plant simulation system, unfortunately
>it is somewhat tied to their requirements, and not for sale.
>If you don't manage to find what you need elsewhere, you could
>concider commisioning us to write the widgets you need.
>(sorry not to be more help)
>Tim.
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Alan McCutchen                                  amccutchen@nasamail.nasa.gov
Harris Space Systems Corporation                407-633-3835  FAX 407-633-3900

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