bsa@ncoast.UUCP (Brandon Allbery) (07/04/85)
Expires: Quoted from <134@ucla-cime.UUCP> ["Re: To: persons offended by ucla-cs!alex"], by kyle@ucla-cime.UUCP (Kyle D. Henriksen)... +--------------- | >From: chuqui@nsc.UUCP (Chuq Von Rospach) | | > Well, I'll start by pointing out the obvious and say that part of being the | > System Administrators job at a site is taking complaints off of the net | > when one of the users steps beyond the bounds of proper use of the network. | | Gee and I didn't even see it in the job description... +--------------- You can't read. The net is too d*mn big to support everyone just shooting off their mouths; and you are also supposed, BY LAW, to keep an eye on libel, slander, etc.; the illegal posting of materials protected by copyright and/or trade secret; et cetera. Do you need a diagram, or just to be thrown in jail as an accomplice (remember the Tcimpidis BBS case?) +--------------- | > Anyone has the right to make a formal complaint, if they so wish, | > especially when discussing the incident directly with the transgressor | > doesn't help. (This is especially true when the screwup is because the | > person thinks that the network is a right and not a priviledge, and thinks | > they can do anything they want). If the SA doesn't want a lot of screaming | > fascists filling their mailbox, they should make sure that the people on | > their site aren't acting like mongoloid idiots with a lobotomy. Not that | > I'm accusing anyone at UCLA of acting that way, of course.... (I'm just | > implying it heavily...) | | Well since I don't agree with a statement you made, do I now have the RIGHT | to incite people to write unsolicited letters to you and your superiors? | I of course would not stoop so low. What really is disturbing you about the | recent postings? +--------------- I know what's got YOU upset; you're part of the problem. I re-quote from the above: ``...the person thinks that the network is a RIGHT and not a PRIVILEGE...'' (emphasis (and spelling corrections :-) mine). This kind of flame has already caused our major news feed (ATV) to leave the net entirely, forcing us to lose a month of news in locating a new feed; has nearly brought our system to a standstill with news volume (and we stopped receiving net.flame a year ago); and apparently has decvax stuttering. The net, I repeat, is too big for this king of bullsh*t. I'm beginning to see more and more sense in splitting the net into technical and non-technical newsgroups; or groups of "has-an-Internet-link" and "Usenet- only"; or something else. Machines may carry one or the other, or both. I suspect grouping by Internet links is smartest... +--------------- | The net serves a large community of users and I'm sorry that some of us | just don't really care what is posted, we only read what we think is relavant. +--------------- Great. I'm glad you have the processor speed and disk space to handle the rest of it. We at ncoast (a TRS-80 Model 16) don't, which is understandable... but when site decvax starts having problems transmitting news, something must be wrong with the net itself. +--------------- | The techniques you are using are the traditional preludes to censorship, what | do you want the SOVIET CHUQNET? By the way your last comment there could | be considered libelous and damaging to a person's career... +--------------- YOUR last comment, at last, has a point. (Sorry, Chuq.) He was explaining his feelings about censorship in his letter; pity you were too busy flaming to read them. Please see above; and get this one point solidly into your brain: if the net doesn't start trimming itself, major net nodes will be FORCED to trim it themselves; they can not afford the disk space and processor time. --bsa (soon to be ncoast's news administrator, it seems...) -- Brandon Allbery, Unix Consultant -- 6504 Chestnut Road, Independence, OH 44131 decvax!cwruecmp!ncoast!bsa; ncoast!bsa@case.csnet; +1 216 524 1416; 74106,1032 ========================> Trekkies have Warped minds. <=======================