[comp.windows.x] Get Real

rws@EXPO.LCS.MIT.EDU (Bob Scheifler) (10/31/90)

    "Meanwhile, as a courtesy to software developers, the X Consortium
    has agreed to freeze through 1991 X Windows' [sic] core
    specifications at the X11 level."

Let me try to restate that in meaningful terms.  "In order to provide a
stable base for software developers, the X Consortium as a rule does not
make incompatible changes to its standards.  A minimum of three years of
stability is seen as essential.  That does not mean no new functionality
will be added, just that existing interfaces will not be changed in
incompatible ways."

    Will there be an X12 in the foreseeable future?

Coming to a theater near you on April 1, 1993.

gsh7w@astsun7.astro.Virginia.EDU (Greg Hennessy) (10/31/90)

Bob Scheifler writes:
#    Will there be an X12 in the foreseeable future?
#
#Coming to a theater near you on April 1, 1993.

Available by anonymous ftp from kremvax I assume?


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jg@crl.dec.com (Jim Gettys) (10/31/90)

Actually, we decided in deference to parents, that the next version of X will
be renamed NC-17.

As Bob said, coming to a theater near you April 1, 1993...
				- Jim

jg@crl.dec.com (Jim Gettys) (11/01/90)

In article <1990Oct31.031954.3305@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, gsh7w@astsun7.astro.Virginia.EDU (Greg Hennessy) writes:
> Bob Scheifler writes:
> #    Will there be an X12 in the foreseeable future?
> #
> #Coming to a theater near you on April 1, 1993.
> 
> Available by anonymous ftp from kremvax I assume?

You laugh...  May not be a joke by then...

Electronic mail connectivity into the USSR now exists.  Here
is a message I got a few weeks ago....  And this is no
April fools joke...  I find this incredibly heartening, personally...
I wonder how many X users there are in the USSR right now,
and if they are listening to comp.windows.x...  If so,
I wonder if one of them will post something.

			- Jim
 

To: wrl@decwrl.dec.com, nsl-interest@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: my first E-mail from the Soviet Union
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 90 11:11:38 PDT
From: Brian Reid <reid@decwrl.dec.com>

Today I got this message from somebody in the Soviet Union, asking for
a copy of a file from a softare system of mine. The data path seems to
have come through Finland (fuug.fi). I don't know what "JV Dialogue"
is, save that it must be the subdomain jvd.msk.su

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Could you email it to me?

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Nickolay Saukh <nms@jvd.msk.su> | Speaking from but not for JV Dialogue
To: wrl@decwrl.dec.com, nsl-interest@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: Re: my first E-mail from the Soviet Union 
In-Reply-To: Your message of Sat, 
             13 Oct 90 11:11:38 -0700.
             <9010131811.AA18005@gnome8.pa.dec.com>
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 90 11:31:03 PDT
From: Brian Reid <reid@decwrl.dec.com>

Maybe nobody but me cares about this, but I'm pleased as punch to get
mail from the Soviet Union. I've tracked down the path. The mail took
this route to get to me:

jvdrd.jvd.msk.su	Joint Venture Dialogue, 13 Spartakovskaya ul,
			SU-107066 Moscow

kiae.su		  	Kurchatov Institute of Atomic Energy, Moscow

jumbo.hq.demos.su	Demos Co-operative, pod.1 d.6 Ovchinnikovskaya nab.,
			SU-113035 Moscow

fuug.fi			Finnish Unix system Users Group,
			Arkadiankatu 14 B 45, SF-00100 Helsinki, Finland

mcsun.eu.net		European Unix systems User Group (EUUG),
			CWI, Kruislaan 413, NL-1098 SJ Amsterdam, Netherlands

decwrl.dec.com		Digital Equipment Corporation, Western Research Lab
			100 Hamilton Avenue UCO-3, Palo Alto, CA 94301-1616

drl@VUSE.VANDERBILT.EDU (11/01/90)

Let's see ....

	W  ->  X  -> NC-17 -> ??? -> NCC-1701[ABCD...]

Virtual Desktop Space, the final frontier???

	 David

geer@CRL.DEC.COM (11/01/90)

As we speak, the first meeting of SUUG, the Soviet Unix
Users Group, is taking place in Moscow.  Last week, at
least two reps from that group attended EurOpen (nee EUUG).
As I recall, at one of the two meetings there is a talk
roughly called ``Living without the source''.

--dan