DAN@IBM.COM (11/17/90)
Hmm. $1000 for OPENLOOK (free) and $1000 for Motif (not free).
korp@atlantis.ees.anl.gov (Peter Korp) (11/19/90)
In article <9011170339.AA15348@expo.lcs.mit.edu> DAN@IBM.COM writes: >Hmm. $1000 for OPENLOOK (free) and $1000 for Motif (not free). Ahem... Do people still not understand? A quick education then. Open Look - A "look & feel" specification by AT&T and Sun Microsystems Motif - "A "look & feel" specification by Open Software Foundation Xm - An X toolkit based on Xt that implements Motif. Xt+(OLIT) - An X toolkit based on Xt that implements Open Look XView - An X toolkit based on Xlib that implements Open Look tnt - A NeWS toolkit that implements Open Look. OpenWindows - A *window system* that merges the X and NeWS protocols. Includes things like Open Fonts, and the OLIT, XView and tnt toolkits. Now, if you want Open Look get it for free from expo in the form of XView, one of you IBM guys figured out how to do that and even ported it to your RS/6000 machines. If you want Motif send $1000 to OSF for source. Please do not confuse OpenWindows with Open Look. They have absolutely nothing in common. Peter
jimf@SABER.COM (11/19/90)
|If you want Motif send $1000 to OSF for source.
There may also be other licensing considerations depending on what
exactly you intend to do with Motif.
jim frost
saber software
jimf@saber.combarnett@grymoire.crd.ge.com (Bruce Barnett) (11/20/90)
In article <1990Nov18.172949.4547@mcs.anl.gov> korp@atlantis.ees.anl.gov (Peter Korp) writes: > you IBM guys Uh, I think the article from "DAN@IBM.COM" was a forgery. >Message-ID: <9011170339.AA15348@expo.lcs.mit.edu> >Path: crdgw1!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!think.com!yale!mintaka!bloom-beacon!IBM.COM!DAN -- Bruce G. Barnett barnett@crd.ge.com uunet!crdgw1!barnett
erik@gogoman.sf.ca.us (Erik Fortune) (11/20/90)
In article <1990Nov18.172949.4547@mcs.anl.gov> korp@atlantis.ees.anl.gov (Peter Korp) writes: >In article <9011170339.AA15348@expo.lcs.mit.edu> DAN@IBM.COM writes: >>Hmm. $1000 for OPENLOOK (free) and $1000 for Motif (not free). > >Ahem... > >Do people still not understand? A quick education then. > : Lots of absolutely true stuff about OpenWindows and Open Look. : >Please do not confuse OpenWindows with Open Look. They have absolutely nothing >in common. > >Peter I don't think that Dan was confusing OpenWindows and Open Look. Dan's point (as I read it) was this: When the OSF sells thing "A" (in this case Motif) for $1000, loads of people scream bloody murder and complain about the evil OSF cartel trying to squeeze the last penny out of everyone's pocket. When Sun "gives away" thing "B" (in this case OpenWindows) for $1000, everybody sings the praises of kind and generous Sun who so benevolently donated thing "B" to the world. If the $1000 is *really* a media charge, Sun should make the source to OpenWindows available via anonymous ftp (or at least allow someone else to do so). If Sun can't or won't do this, then the "media charge" is pure PR hogwash. Cheers, Erik
Yin-Cheng.Tsai@tigris.edrc.cmu.EDU (11/21/90)
Would people from Sun speak out to defend yourselves? It sounds you guys accept the rumors spreading around regarding the GOLDEN tape(s). What a shame! I don't like to work on something which is QUIET! Also, shame on those people who make up their stories based upon their imagination. You shouldn't present your opinion just because you think so. This is a free country but don't abuse your right. Y. C. Tsai yt@cs.cmu.edu P.S. I don't have any access to ...openlook.