root%paul.ARPA%uscacsc.UUCP@USC-CSE.USC.EDU.UUCP (02/23/87)
I have a question regarding the possible use of a window for input and output. I do not want to spawn another shell with xterm, I merely want to be able to open up a window from which I can read input given from the keyboard and be able to output responses on the window. Xtext will allow me to write into a window but allows no provisions for reading keyboard input. Is there a function(s) that will make this easy or will it be necessary for me to write a new one? (obviously I will be writing a program using this). Thanks ...Paul Nahi
asente@figaro.UUCP (02/24/87)
In article <8702231624.AA04314@paul.UUCP> root%paul.ARPA%uscacsc.UUCP@USC-CSE.USC.EDU (Paul Nahi) writes: > > [how do you create a window that you can use for text I/O? Xtext only > allows text output, not input.] Look at the Xtty library. This allows you to start up an xterm in a subwindow and read and write to it using a procedural interface. It is, to be frank, a dirty hack, but it's a useful dirty hack. Note that it won't work with the release 4 xterm without the fixes I sent out to the xpert list last month. I still have them if anyone needs them. If you wanted to write a version of this that doesn't use a slave xterm, please do. The world will love you for it. Note to the Berkeley xterm folks: did my fix to allow Xtty to work get installed into the distributed xterm? -paul asente asente@cascade.stanford.edu ...decwrl!labrea!cascade!asente
edmoy%opal.Berkeley.EDU@UCBVAX.BERKELEY.EDU.UUCP (02/25/87)
> Note to the Berkeley xterm folks: did my fix to allow Xtty to work get > installed into the distributed xterm? Yes, sort of. xterm 6.6B has your bug fix, but the corresponding fix has not made it yet to Xtty in Xlib. Someday, we will get around to installing Release 4 in the source area on prang, and then (I hope) fold in all the bug fixes. Edward Moy Academic Computing Services University of California Berkeley, CA 94720 edmoy@opal.Berkeley.EDU ucbvax!opal!edmoy
pierce@EDDIE.MIT.EDU@rd1632.UUCP (03/10/87)
From: Gene Pierce Location: NCR Corp. WHQ/5E Dayton, Oh. 45479 To: To whom it may concern Please add my name to the X Windows discussion list. Thank You Gene Pierce
lim@FEEDBACK.STANFORD.EDU (Kelvin O. Lim) (10/09/87)
I am working with X windows on several machines, DEC, IBM RT. Would appreciate getting onto a mailing list, bulletin board, etc. if such exists as well as information on where I can get more programming information for dealing with graphics in X. Thanks Kelvin O. Lim lim@isl.stanford.edu
beth@utoday.UUCP (beth) (09/16/88)
I'm trying to write an article about what a "Distributed X Network" might look like, and what benefits it would provide for users. I heard X is the minicomputer world's answer to workstations, because it let's you distribute bit-mapped graphics across a terminal-to-host network. Can anyone help shed light on these three points? Please respond by e-mail to uunet!utoday!beth Beth C. Fishkind
dale@lamont.Columbia.edu (dale chayes) (09/25/88)
In article <255@utoday.UUCP>, beth@utoday.UUCP (beth) writes: > > > I'm trying to write an article about what a "Distributed > X Network" might look like, and what benefits it would provide This article posting struck oddly. Perhaps I am completely off base, in which case I apologize now, or it is either; intended to start a flame war over the pros and cons of various window systems, or an attempt to gather some info so that the poster can write an article about a topic which she/he is not qualified to write about. If the first case is correct, you will probably succeed. If the second, I suggest that you ask your editor to assign someone who knows the subject. -- Dale Chayes Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory of Columbia University Route 9W, Palisades, N.Y. 10964 dale@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu voice: (914) 359-2900 extension 434 fax: (914) 359-6817
littauer@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com (Tom Littauer) (09/28/88)
In article <910@shark.lamont.Columbia.edu> dale@lamont.Columbia.edu (dale chayes) writes: >In article <255@utoday.UUCP>, beth@utoday.UUCP (beth) writes: >> I'm trying to write an article about what a "Distributed >> X Network" might look like, and what benefits it would provide > >This article posting struck oddly. Perhaps I am completely off base, in >which case I apologize now, or it is either; intended to start a flame >war over the pros and cons of various window systems, or an attempt to >gather some info so that the poster can write an article about a topic >which she/he is not qualified to write about. > >If the first case is correct, you will probably succeed. If the second, >I suggest that you ask your editor to assign someone who knows the subject. After all the flames in other groups about the trade press not reflecting the interests of the technical community, it's nice to see someone coming to us for informed opinion. Assuming "beginner's mind" is a useful device for (re)examining a subject for a fresh perspective. It'd be real good to see an article that talks about real-world benefits as opposed to "it's new, it's sexy, therefore it's useful" :-). -- UUCP: littauer@amdahl.amdahl.com or: {sun,decwrl,hplabs,pyramid,ames,uunet}!amdahl!littauer DDD: (408) 737-5056 USPS: Amdahl Corp. M/S 337, 1250 E. Arques Av, Sunnyvale, CA 94086 I'll tell you when I'm giving you the party line. The rest of the time it's my very own ravings (accept no substitutes).
dgeiger@DECWRL.DEC.COM (Dorothy Geiger) (10/11/88)
I need some information on X-Windows (X-11) in the MS-DOS environment and was told that you might be able to help me out. I have a friend who is currently operating in an MS-DOS environment and will eventually be moving to a UNIX environment. He's currently developing some applications for which X-11 would seem appropriate, and would like to get a look at it (in his current MS-DOS) environment and potentially begin developing applications which would be portable to the UNIX environment. Could you perhaps provide pointers to a.) reading materials; b.) products/ implementations available in the MS-DOS environment; c.) general utility/ robustness/implementation quality? Any information/pointers/help would be greatly appreciated. Please send replys to dgeiger@decwrl.dec.com, since the friend in question has yet to enter the world of electronic communications. Thanks much!! dorothy geiger
richard@bud.UUCP (10/19/88)
Have I found a reasonable path to ask X windows questions of the xperts!! Richard karasik 408 922 8271 ...sun!aeras!bud!richard
card82@ihlpb.ATT.COM (Hammond) (11/23/88)
I am interested in obtaining a reference book on X windows, if anyone has a good suggestion, I would appreciate it. Mark Hammond (312) 979-4355 Work (312) 299-7573 Home
rws@EXPO.LCS.MIT.EDU (Bob Scheifler) (11/23/88)
I am interested in obtaining a reference book on X windows, if anyone has a good suggestion, I would appreciate it. If you want a *reference* book, you can get the MIT documentation from the MIT Software Center, by calling (617) 258-8330. The Xlib and Protocol reference manuals are coming out (any day now?) combined in a book from Digital Press. There are also the books from O'Reilly and Associates, containing both tutorial and reference information; contact uunet!ora!nuts. There is also Ollie Jone's book on programming with Xlib (not a reference manual) published by Prentice Hall.
ric@terminator.cc.umich.edu (Richard Campbell) (07/14/89)
On Page 8 of "The Sun Observer" is an advertisement by Quest Systems Corporation describing their X server port, "QuestWindows", to Sun Microsystems workstations. While acknowldging that "X" and "X Window System" are trademarks of (apparently) MIT, Quest states that "QuestWindows", "X Classic", *and* "X Windows" are trademarks of Quest! We know that Robert Scheifler has said he doesn't particulary like the name X Windows; has he just lost the rights to that name? ric
jim@EXPO.LCS.MIT.EDU (Jim Fulton) (07/14/89)
> [Quest is claiming "X Windows" as a trademark and generally being sloppy about > attributing trademarks.] It has been a little while since I last looked into trademark regulations, but I suspect that the overwhelming number of examples of prior use of the the phrase "X Windows" would make such a trademark claim difficult to defend.
papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) (07/14/89)
In article <1137@mailrus.cc.umich.edu> ric@terminator.cc.umich.edu (Richard Campbell) writes: >On Page 8 of "The Sun Observer" is an advertisement by Quest Systems Corporation >describing their X server port, "QuestWindows", to Sun Microsystems workstations. >While acknowldging that "X" and "X Window System" are trademarks of (apparently) MIT, >Quest states that "QuestWindows", "X Classic", *and* "X Windows" are trademarks of Quest! >We know that Robert Scheifler has said he doesn't particulary like the name X Windows; >has he just lost the rights to that name? The name has ben "misused" so much that is very doubtful anybody will be able to "trademark" the X-Windows name. IBM has been calling their version of the X Window System "X-Windows" since a year ago, for example. -- Marco Papa USC-ACSC -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= uucp:...!pollux!papa BIX:papa ARPAnet:pollux!papa@oberon.usc.edu "There's Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Diga and Caligari!" -- Rick Unland -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
larry@ticker.dec.com (Lawrence J. Timmins) (07/19/89)
Someone actually trademarked "X Windows" (utter disbelief) :^) As you said, Rob might have left it up for grabs, however, Quest would have to protect its trademark as something unique, etc. Here is a case where a trademark may have been given without proper research, etc. "X Windows" is one of the most popular GENERIC phrases that is commonly used for the X11-related software industry, players, etc. While many, including MIT, DEC, etc. respect MIT's trademarks, I have seen "X Windows" for months in every weekly paper/ monthly magazine (much to the chagrin of Rob no doubt). Good luck to Quest, but "X Windows" appears to already be a GENERIC NAME used without any knowledge of Quest or its products by many public sources. Larry Timmins ***** These statements are solely my opinion for discussion within this conference and ***** do not represent any implicit or explicit statement or opinion by my employer. ***** All relevant disclaimers apply.
bsb@toulouse.ee.tulane.edu (Brian S. Bourgeois) (10/11/89)
I am having difficulties using the XGetStandardColorMap function. I am attempting to load the Gray scale standard color map, but am getting a return value of 0 from the XGetStandardColorMap function indicating that the map is not available. The map is available in the Xatom.h include file
markc@Solbourne.COM (Mark Connell) (10/11/89)
In article <1140@rex.cs.tulane.edu>, bsb@toulouse.ee.tulane.edu (Brian S. Bourgeois) writes: > I am having difficulties using the XGetStandardColorMap function. ... > The map is available in the Xatom.h include file Well, if I understand standard colormaps directly, the problem is that the server you are using does not define the gray scale standard colormap. The definition in the Xatom.h file only means that the atom is defined, not that it has a defined value. If you want a gray scale colormap, you will have to define your own. Mark A. Connell Solbourne Computer, Inc. 1900 Pike Road Longmont, Co 80501 (303) 772-3400 markc@Solbourne.COM ...!uunet!stan!markc
ms2@doc.ic.ac.uk (M Shelley) (11/26/90)
I'm just a poor humble student who is just learning about X windows. I am just about to start writing a MacWrite style word processor that will run on Sun 3's under X windows, and I was wondering if anybody has any source code that might be interesting to look at. I will be using the toolkit widgets and so I suppose that xman is a good starting point? Or might it be a better idea to learn to use Motif? Also, I know that X uses pixel based fonts. Could anybody tell me anything/direct me to any information about vector font usage (i.e. where you specify the line that make up the characters, rather than the bitmap image of it.) I guess that laserprinter output will be a good idea, so is postscript the right thing to use? If so are there any good books on it? Cheers Martin ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------- | | /\ /---\ | Martin A. Shelley |\ /| / \ / | Bsc3, Imperial College London. | \ / | / \ \ | | \/ | / \ \---\ |____ Why is LIFE SO important? | | /========\ \ | | | | / \ \_____/ | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------- C, n.: A programming language that is sort of like Pascal except more like assembly except that it isn't very much like either one, or anything else. It is either the best language available to the art today, or it isn't. -- Ray Simard ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------