[net.news] net.internat

craig@dcl-cs.UUCP (Craig Wylie) (10/25/85)

Recently the large volume of traffic over the illegal creation and
subsequent rather high and mighty removal of net.internat has raged 
back and forth across the net. Or has it ?

For the last week the broad view has been that net.internat is a good thing,
the only voice raised against it has been that of a self appointed 
arbiter of our own (the net's) well being. Fair enough  --  we all owe
to those who run this service for us, and it is VERY annoying when
people bypass the rules that have been set up to make a difficult
task that much easier. *However* the level of inflexibility demonstrated
reminds me of the early versions of GCOS ( :-)).


This news group deserves to exist for at least two reasons :-

	(1)	There have been many occasions when we of the non-US 
		population have just wished that the date was slightly
		differently arranged, or that we could buy that really
		great sounding car on sale in California.

	(2)	The people, us, the users, the ones that read the
		stuff,..... seem to want it. Even if the gods who run the
		system for us are doing us a service -- they are required to
		give us the service we want. They have not been elected 
		and have no given power, only what they choose to take.


Of all the groups already on the system and some of the recent suggestions
(how about  net.rundown.spaf  :-)) this must be one that is most important
and relevant to the life we as users lead. If costs are rising then I can see
no argument in favour of retaining those groups that have no relevance
to the institutions that are paying. If you want to compare notes on
ski resorts then send them to a standard BB where you pay for connect time.


This is a vote for net.internat ... and a vote *against* non relevant groups.

Let's get rid of these things that have little use to those who pay for our
indulgence. I would like to see some views on groups that should cease,
let's vote on that.


			Craig.

(sorry about the high level of FLAME :-) :-) :-) )

slerner@sesame.UUCP (Simcha-Yitzchak Lerner) (10/30/85)

> 
> 
> Recently the large volume of traffic over the illegal creation and
> subsequent rather high and mighty removal of net.internat has raged 
> back and forth across the net. Or has it ?
> 
> For the last week the broad view has been that net.internat is a good thing,
> the only voice raised against it has been that of a self appointed 
> arbiter of our own (the net's) well being. 
...
> 
> This is a vote for net.internat ... and a vote *against* non relevant groups.
> 
> 			Craig.
> 
> (sorry about the high level of FLAME :-) :-) :-) )


I must agree with Craig on all points.  As much as we need order, spaf
went too far in removing net.internat.  I too vote that it be re-instated,
and that there be more discussion before 'the powers that be' go on a hunt.


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