[comp.windows.x] 2 bit grayscale, Visual - is it worth it?

jaap@sequent.UUCP (Jaap Vermeulen) (02/12/91)

ajk@wren.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Alan Kent) writes:

>We have a number of Visual XTurbo19 X-terminals. Aparantly there is a
>greyscale option for them. Has anyone tried them? Any feedback about
>reliability, speed etc? I have been told a lot of X software tends to
>go crazy with unusual numbers of bit plains (ie. not 1 or 8). Have
>people noticed this with 2 bit planes? In particular I am interested
>in whether MOTIF and XView make good use of the greyscales with their
>3d look.

I'm running the grayscale version. It behaves fine, is fast enough, no
problems with motif applications. You can tweek it any way you want to
using X resources. So far I only ran into one application that does not
display in grayscale but choses black and white instead. If grayscale
is worth its price, I don't know. Except that grayscale is easier on my
eyes (I use lightgray as my background color), I don't see a lot of
added benefit over B&W.  (Highlight color is easier to spot :-).

Why not try it yourself with a sinlge unit?

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jbk@visual.UUCP (02/12/91)

Dr Alan Kent (uunet!wren.cs.rmit.oz.au!ajk) writes:

> We have a number of Visual XTurbo19 X-terminals. Aparantly there is a
> greyscale option for them. Has anyone tried them? Any feedback about
> reliability, speed etc?

    I'll leave it to the folks on the net to provide a truly unbiased view of
the X19 Turbo grayscale machine, but, as one of its developers, I can give
you some feedback.  The X19 Turbo has hardware assist for both monochrome
and grayscale graphics drawing.  Without detailing the hardware design,
under most circumstances 2-plane (gray) pixels can be written in about the
same amount of time as 1-plane (monochrome) pixels.  Speaking from experience,
engineering dedicated a large amount of time to exploiting the graphics
assist and devising efficient grayscale algorithms for optimal performance.

> I am interested in whether MOTIF and XView make good use of the greyscales
> with their 3d look.

    My turbo is my main development machine.  I use MOTIF and like its 3-D
use of gray shades, and find the grayscale turbo to be a pleasant development
and testing machine.

Jeff Krampf
Visual Technology
jbk@visual.uu.net
1-800-VISUALC

prc@erbe.se (Robert Claeson) (02/13/91)

In article <4742@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au> ajk@wren.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Alan Kent) writes:

>We have a number of Visual XTurbo19 X-terminals. Aparantly there is a
>greyscale option for them. Has anyone tried them? Any feedback about
>reliability, speed etc? I have been told a lot of X software tends to
>go crazy with unusual numbers of bit plains (ie. not 1 or 8). Have
>people noticed this with 2 bit planes?

I've only came across two pieces of software that requires me to turn
the greyscale off. They are FrameMaker 1.3X and an older version of
xloadimage (2.00, if my memory serves me right). I believe that the
latest version of xloadimage as well as FrameMaker 2.1X works with two
bitplanes.

>In particular I am interested in whether MOTIF and XView make good use
>of the greyscales with their 3d look.

Yes. Having greyscale is definitely a plus for those applications, but
they look reasonably good on b&w terminals as well.

-- 
Robert Claeson

Disclaimer: I represent myself and not my employer.