dean@coplex.uucp (Dean Brooks) (02/21/91)
Hi,
Our company is preparing to get X-Windows Client on our SV32
system (Motorola 8864DP - Dual 88100). Now, we have hundreds of
PC's floating around the office, and we would like to have PC's
as X-Server's.
Now, I know of all the neat little PC servers that can be found
from reading the FAQ list, but EVERY one of those damned little
suckers require me to get UNIX on my PC.
I dont need a filesystem on these PC servers; all I want is the
graphical interface. Obviously it can be done, as the X-Terminals
have managed to do it without having UNIX resident.
So, is there any software out to do what I need? If so, can
anyone give me a suggestion and/or list of their current setup?
I would really not like to buy IP-UNIX, IP-TCP and IP-X just to
get a stupid X-Server.
Thanks, Dean
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dean@coplex.UUCP Dean A. Brooks
Copper Electronics, Inc.
Louisville, Ky
UUCP: !uunet!coplex!deanrick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) (02/21/91)
In article <1991Feb21.050550.4351@coplex.uucp> dean@coplex.uucp (Dean Brooks) writes:
Now, I know of all the neat little PC servers that can be found
from reading the FAQ list, but EVERY one of those damned little
suckers require me to get UNIX on my PC.
Not so! I run an X server on my DOS machine. You do need networking
hard/software, of course. In the FAQ, I see a number of explicit
references to MS-DOS and Microsoft Windows.
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301/496-4823 | motives and the will to do service to humanity. Abdu'l-Bahajka@radar0.larc.nasa.gov (J. Keith Alston) (02/22/91)
In article <1991Feb21.050550.4351@coplex.uucp> dean@coplex.uucp (Dean Brooks) writes: > > I dont need a filesystem on these PC servers; all I want is the >graphical interface. Obviously it can be done, as the X-Terminals >have managed to do it without having UNIX resident. > This question has been asked quite a bit lately. Heres what I know. There are quite a few X servers for that DOS PC out there the one that I'm using is called HCL-exceed plus. It runs under DOS with tcp/ip. Its a pretty good X server, fast, many fonts etc. It runs on 286,386 or 486 systems, the more memory you have the better. I also evaluated another PC/X server called PC XVIEW, this server seemed just as good as the exceed plus, but I saw some performance comparisons somewhere that said that exceedp was faster. Both of these packages allow you to suspend your X session to run DOS programs and then hot key back to the X session. There are also packages that allow the X server to run under windows 3.0, which allow the X server to run while DOS programs are running, I've heard that the performance on these isn't that good. Also there's this soon to be released Desqview/X which sounds like the PC X server to beat all. Hope this helps Keith Alston -- "In this world you must be OH so smart or OH so pleasant... I recommend pleasant"----> Elwood P. Dowd Lockheed Eng. and Sci. Co./Nasa Larc|J. Keith Alston jka@radar0.larc.nasa.gov
bill@polygen.uucp (Bill Poitras) (02/25/91)
In article <1991Feb21.050550.4351@coplex.uucp> dean@coplex.uucp (Dean Brooks) writes: >Hi, > > Now, I know of all the neat little PC servers that can be found >from reading the FAQ list, but EVERY one of those damned little >suckers require me to get UNIX on my PC. > This not true. The following servers are made for MS-DOS: PC DECWindows a.k.a. the PC DECWindows Display Facility is an MS-DOS application that turns your PC into an X11R3 terminal. It supports DECnet. Available from DEC. [Dennis Giokas (giokas@mosaic.enet.dec.com), 3/90] HP (800-752-0900) has the "HP Accelerated X Window Display Server" (HP AXDS/PC; HP part D2300B) which will run on any AT-class DOS machine with 640KB, MSDOS 3.1 or higher, and the HP Intelligent Graphics Controller 10 card, to which the X11R3-based server is downloaded (avoiding performance-limitations from PC RAM-size and processor speed). [from John Kempff (kempff@hppad.hp.com), 3/90] Hummingbird Communications (Canada 416-470-1203) produces the HCL-eXceed and HCL-eXceed Plus for EGA, VGA, and VGA+ controllers. * Integrated Inference Machines (714-978-6201 or -6776) is shipping X11/AT, an X server that runs under MS-windows. The server converts an IBM-AT into an X terminal which can simultaneously run MS-DOS and Microsoft Windows applications. * SpectraGraphics/GSS (503-641-2200) makes PC-Xview, an MSDOS-based X server which interfaces with PC/TCP Plus networking software from FTP Software and Excelan's LAN WorkPlace for DOS. The server works with (a) 286, 386, 486 (b) EGA, VGA, DGIS displays. (c) DOS 3.2 and above (d) Microsoft, Logitech, Mouse Systems Mice (e) 640k memory up to 16 MB memory [the PC-Xview/16 is available for PCs with extended memory]. * VisionWare's XVision is a Microsoft Windows-based X server which allows an IBM-compatible PC or PS/2 to display X clients running on a networked computer at the same time as local DOS programs. VisionWare is at 612-377-3627 or vision@vware.mn.org (UK: +44 532 788858 and vware@vision.uucp). Xnth is an implementation of X11 R4 which runs on AT-bus PCs running DOS 3.3 or higher. It currently supports 1280X1024 or 1024X768 resolution monitors at 256 colors (out of 16M) with hardware accelleration for graphics and text operations. It currently utilizes a TCP/IP byte stream over Ethernet. Information: Jerry Norman, Nth Graphics, Ltd., 1-800-624-7552. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My company own the ones with * before them. PC-XView is excellent. It it reasonably fast and has terrific TCP/IP and display support. XVision is a 16 color server, even for 256 color windows, so I was kind of disappointed. X11/AT isn't that great, but has a few neat features. +-----------------+---------------------------+-----------------------------+ | Bill Poitras | Polygen Corporation | {princeton mit-eddie | | (bill) | Waltham, MA USA | bu sunne}!polygen!bill | | | FAX (617)890-8694 | bill@polygen.com | +-----------------+---------------------------+-----------------------------+