[comp.windows.x] PHIGS on X on Suns?

amir@pilat.Silvaco.COM (Amir J. Katz (Xpert)) (03/10/91)

I am not sure whether I have already posted it, but I have neither
seen a single posting nor received an answer, so I'll re-post:

1. I have some software that runs on Apollos using 2D-GMR graphic package.
   I have been told that the closest thing to it in the modern world would
   be PHIGS. Is that so?
2. If PHIGS is the answer, are there PD or commercial implementations of
   PHIGS running on top of X windows? Especially on Sun machines?
   My information to date is:
   - Sun has sunPHIGS, runs on top of SunView,
   - DEC has its PHIGS
   - IBM has graPHIGS running on RS/6000.
3. Sun's Catalyst catalogue list a few companies claiming to have PHIGS:
   - Template Graphic Software
   - Unicad
   - Creative Visual Software
   None have responded so far to inquiries. Does anyone have any info
   about these guys and/or their software ?

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jch@stardent.COM (Jan Hardenbergh) (03/12/91)

From: uunet!pilat.silvaco.com!amir (Amir J. Katz (Xpert))
> 1. I have some software that runs on Apollos using 2D-GMR graphic package.
>    I have been told that the closest thing to it in the modern world would
>    be PHIGS. Is that so?

2D-GMR is a 2D integer based display list package. If the display list 
or viewing(matrix) aspects of GMR are important to you then PHIGS is the
right choice.  If not, then you have a wider choice.

> 2. If PHIGS is the answer, are there PD or commercial implementations of
>    PHIGS running on top of X windows? Especially on Sun machines?

Soon.  PEX, the PHIGS Extension to X11 will be available in the same manner
as the X source itself with R5.  But it is BIG and will require a non-trivial
amount of support.

>    My information to date is:
>    - Sun has sunPHIGS, runs on top of SunView,
>    - DEC has its PHIGS
>    - IBM has graPHIGS running on RS/6000.

Every workstation vendor has a PHIGS product at this point. Almost all
run with X.  The current SunPHIGS does not run with X, but Sun has
learned some lessons about being recalcitrant X suppliers and I would
expect SunPHIGS to behave in X soon.

> 3. Sun's Catalyst catalogue list a few companies claiming to have PHIGS:
>    - Template Graphic Software
>    - Unicad
>    - Creative Visual Software
>    None have responded so far to inquiries. Does anyone have any info
>    about these guys and/or their software ?

I've heard of the first two.  I'd stick with vendor supplied PHIGS products.
PHIGS needs lots of platform specific tunning to perform well.

Speaking for myself, 

-Jan "YON" Hardenbergh       jch@stardent.com         (508)-371-9810x261
Stardent Computer, 6 N.E. Tech Center, 521 Virginia Rd,Concord, MA 01742