kaush@moncam.co.uk (Kaush Kotak) (10/13/89)
I would welcome any information on OSF/MOTIF. I am particularly interested in obtaining contacts in the U.K. with users and/or 'official' dealers for the OSF. Any help appreciated. Kaush. kaush@moncam.co.uk
jay@GEO785.GCN.UOKNOR.EDU (12/15/89)
This is a reply to Jon about the MOTIF vs. DECWindows problem. After talking to several DECies about super-portability for X-applications (which was the initial target for X), I was informed that to be upwardly compatible, it would be a good idea to get MOTIF from OSF. I am sure (which means I am probably using common sense) that the MOTIF toolkit is different than the DECWindows toolkit. In other words you/I/we folks that want to have portable X code are going to have to lock in on a toolkit and eat it if something better comes along. I hope that DEC figures out how many people that they are going to SLIME if they don't stay real close to OSF's MOTIF. The thing that makes me want to flame is that DEC used PART of the Xt toolkit to make DECWindows (on VMS and ULTRIX), took some (as in not all) of the include files from the consortium hacked on them a little bit (took out usefull things like Label.h...), and turned their version out before they should have. (I bet I have pissed some folks off by now.) I am about to undertake a rather large 100k+ line project and have to depend on things like portability (it has to run on a CRAY/SUN/VAX/STELLAR/ALLIANT). (I am in trouble right.) Anyway ***Flame off*** and watch out jon. Anyway if you want to talk to me call me. If you want to flame at me (personally) over mail CAST OFF. Later, Jay A. Davis Work: (405) - 325 - 5540 Guess what: These are MY views not the University of Oklahomas views. They don't even know I sent the letter, so there!
klee@chico.pa.dec.com (Ken Lee) (01/03/90)
In article <9001021832.AA13197@expo.lcs.mit.edu>, jay@GEO785.GCN.UOKNOR.EDU writes: > I hope that DEC figures out how many > people that they are going to SLIME if they don't stay real close to OSF's > MOTIF. Digital has announced that they will soon be converting all its software to Motif. The programming interfaces to Motif and DECwindows XUI are intentionally very similar, so porting should be straightforward. A guide to porting from XUI to Motif is included in the Motif documentation. Ken Lee DEC Western Software Laboratory, Palo Alto, Calif. Internet: klee@decwrl.dec.com uucp: uunet!decwrl!klee
beitel@excalibur.tn.cornell.EDU (Beitel) (06/04/90)
I am building Motif 1.0.A on a AIX/370 Architecture machine and want to execute some of the demos to see if everything went ok. Is it necessary to do an install before trying to execute the demos? David Beitel dabx@cornellf.tn.cornell.edu
dfa@WHITE.SWW.SYMBOLICS.COM (David F. Aronson) (11/21/90)
Does anybody know of a good source of some example X programs using the Motif widget set? I am also looking for any articles/books reviewing or comparing the Motif widget set. Any help would be greatly appreciated. ========================================================= Dave Aronson dfa@stony-brook.scrc.symbolics.com =========================================================
mayer@hplabsz.HPL.HP.COM (Niels Mayer) (11/22/90)
In article <19901121005712.3.DFA@PLUM.SWW.Symbolics.COM> dfa@WHITE.SWW.SYMBOLICS.COM (David F. Aronson) writes: >Does anybody know of a good source of some example X >programs using the Motif widget set? I am also looking >for any articles/books reviewing or comparing the Motif >widget set. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I suggest you purchase Doug Young's book "the X window system Programming and applications with Xt, OSF/Motif edition", and grab the examples from Doug's book, which are available via anon. ftp from expo.lcs.mit.edu in directory contrib. I think the file is somehting like young.examples.tar.Z.. You might also want to take a look at the example programs I distribute with my WINTERP interactive development and extension environment for Motif applications. The examples are written in WINTERP-Lisp, which is kind of like emacs-lisp except that UI primitives are implemented via Motif widgets rather than text-buffer operations. The lisp interpreter itself is based on David Betz's XLISP, which provides a simple OOP extension allowing you to easily subclass widgets, specialize them into application-objects, and even work-around lacunae in the widgets themselves. And since you work at Symbolics, you're probably not Lisp-phobic and like the elegance of using real programming languages, rather than kludging things up with C, X resources, and the various "user interface languages" being promoted. To give you an example of what's there, here are the names of the example programs in the winterp distribution: bitmap-br.lsp bitmap-br2.lsp calculator.lsp callbacks.lsp colorsetr.lsp dialogshel.lsp form-widg1.lsp form-widg2.lsp form-widg3.lsp getvalues.lsp graphcalc-options.lsp graphcalc-sliderdisp.lsp graphcalc.lsp grep-br.lsp helloworld.lsp identifier.lsp initialize.lsp interact.lsp list-test.lsp mail-br.lsp menu-ex.lsp mng-test.lsp pixmaps.lsp popen.lsp popup-menu.lsp radiobox1.lsp radiobox2.lsp rc-shell.lsp scale-widg.lsp scooter.lsp setvalues.lsp text.lsp trans.lsp w_ctrlpnl.lsp You may obtain the current source, documentation, and examples via anonymous ftp from host expo.lcs.mit.edu: in directory contrib/winterp you will find the compress(1)'d tar(1) file winterp-1.01.tar.Z. Slides, papers and further documentation can be found in directory contrib/winterp/papers. (In particular, you may be interested in a paper which will appear in an upcoming ACM SIGPLAN on Lisp, aka "Lisp Pointers") ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Niels Mayer -- hplabs!mayer -- mayer@hplabs.hp.com Human-Computer Interaction Department Hewlett-Packard Laboratories Palo Alto, CA. *
etaylor@wilkins.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu (Eric Taylor) (12/10/90)
|>> Is MIT going to come out with a 3D-looking widget set |>> that people can safely code in? I wish sincerely wish it. |>Is 3D effect really the reason that you would use such a toolkit? Well, I'll tell ya. Everytime I come out with some X-based product using the Athena Widget Set, everyone says, "Oh yeah, great, but How come it does not look as nice as some of those other X applications I see?" I get really tired of these comments. In answer to your question ..... YES!!!! -- Eric Taylor Baylor College of Medicine etaylor@wilkins.bcm.tmc.edu (713) 798-3776
qureshi@redwood.shell.com (Fawad Qureshi) (01/03/91)
Need documentation for Motif Window Manager (mwm) running under DECwindows. We are using mwm with DECwindows and trying to customize resources for certain application programs, all doc. that I can find for MOTIF is for when its used with X-windows. Any help will be appreciated. -- Fawad Qureshi Shell Oil Company (713)795-3772 internet: qureshi@shell.com
rwt@ohm.york.ac.uk (Richard Taylor) (02/13/91)
Is there anywhere where we can ftp the Motif libraries from ? Richard -- ****************************************************************** * Dr R W Taylor tel : (44) 904 432351 fax : 432335 * * Adaptive Systems Group email : rwt@uk.ac.york.ohm * * University of York, England *
arny@cbnewsl.att.com (arny.b.engelson) (03/21/91)
I will soon be developing an X-window based gui for a VAX/VMS (DEC-windows) based set of tools. All the software must be in Ada. There is a strong push to use Motif, but I am hoping to delay the final decision until I determine what support software (i.e. toolkits) are available for assisting in this development. So, if you know of any software/toolkits that may be of help, please let me know. If I get enough of a response, I'll post a summary in case others are interested. BTW, I am aware of TAE+ (which generates Ada code), but their Motif version is not out yet (they currently support some kind of HP widget set). -- Arny Engelson att!wayback!arny (arny@wayback.att.com)