[net.news] Distribution woes

trudel@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU (Jonathan D.) (12/12/85)

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	Here in NJ, I sit wondering to myself,  why isn't there any
sort of regional distribution other than statewide distribution?
I really am beginning to wonder why there isn't such.  Could it be
that no one has proposed it before, or is it because it would be
too impractical to implement?  When starting this article, I took
a look at the possibilities of where I could post to.  They were-

several on-site choices
nj
ny
usa
na
world

What I object to is the fact that there is a quantum leap between nj
and usa.  I would love to see regional distribution made available,
something that would fil the gap.  For nj, et al, there could be
'metro' which would include systems within the metropolitan ny area.
If this were to be implemented, I really think it might help cut down
on the wasted expenses of having articles of interest to us in the
nj area show up in Beaverton, OR, and vice versa.

The reason I bring it up now is the announcing of an Amiga User's
Group in NJ that was announced to the net as a whole.  This really is
a waste of valuable resources, and the people in California were the
first to complain.  Regional distribution is what is needed for this
sort of material, and I bet it would save a lot of people a lot of
grief.   Is it possible?
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bill@sigma.UUCP (Bill Swan) (12/13/85)

In article <4265@topaz.RUTGERS.EDU> trudel (Jonathan D.) writes:
>	Here in NJ, I sit wondering to myself,  why isn't there any
>sort of regional distribution other than statewide distribution?

You don't have it because nobody back there bothered to implement it.
Our distributions go: local, seattle, wa, pnw (Pacific NW), usa, etc

pnw covers Washington, Oregon, maybe British Columbia, Idaho, Montana
(*are* there any systems in Montana?). (I suppose I should find out some
day what the limits are to "pnw" :-).

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srt@ucla-cs.UUCP (12/13/85)

What annoys me about distributions is that the name of the various
newsgroups are net.* and each individual article has a separate
distribution.  What is 'net' if not a distribution?

This is especially annoying when one wants to post only locally, since
the local version of a net group has to be created separately and subscribed
to separately.

Why aren't the newsgroups named by topic and distribution controlled by
a separate distribution line?

    Scott R. Turner
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darin@ut-dillo.UUCP (Darin Adler) (12/15/85)

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> What annoys me about distributions is that the name of the various
> newsgroups are net.* and each individual article has a separate
> distribution.  What is 'net' if not a distribution?
> 
> This is especially annoying when one wants to post only locally, since
> the local version of a net group has to be created separately and subscribed
> to separately.
> 
> Why aren't the newsgroups named by topic and distribution controlled by
> a separate distribution line?

It was my impression that 'net' in net.anything was the *default*
distribution for articles.  Thus, local "versions" of a group are possible
by overriding this default.  Of course, I don't know what happens with
followup messages (I know how to do this in postnews).
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edg@micropro.UUCP (Ed Greenberg) (12/18/85)

In article <255@ut-dillo.UUCP> darin@ut-dillo.UUCP (Darin Adler) writes:
>> Why aren't the newsgroups named by topic and distribution controlled by
>> a separate distribution line?
>
>It was my impression that 'net' in net.anything was the *default*
>distribution for articles.  Thus, local "versions" of a group are possible
>by overriding this default.  Of course, I don't know what happens with
>followup messages (I know how to do this in postnews).
>-- 
>Darin Adler	{gatech,harvard,ihnp4,seismo}!ut-sally!ut-dillo!darin

I know that the above is true in Pnews (the followup script that is part
of rn.  I recently hit F to follow up on an item in net.jokes.  I found
that pnews prompted me with a warning that said...
"This program posts news to many machines throughout the continent..."
							 ^^^^^^^^^
when I expected it to say "world."  Sure enough, the original posting
had a distribution line of "na" and my followup was initialized with the
same distribution.  

So... if you want to control distribution in a newsgroup, you can do so
by editing the "distribution:" line at the same time that you're editing
the article.  You can, for instance, post something to net.general with
a distribution of "local" or "ba" though doing so would be in violation
of protocols.  More to the point, you can post location specific jokes
to net.jokes and limit them to the location that will apprecite them,
and you can limit ANY posting in a net group to the US if you feel that
it doesn't belong overseas.  

Now, if we could teach this to certain persons posting ads for dinettes
in net.general we'd be in good shape.
					-e


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