[comp.windows.x] X-Sunview

lallemen%tintin.ese-metz.fr@esemetz.UUCP (Yannick Lallement) (04/03/91)

Hello,

I have the following problem, and nobody
here can help me :

I would like to use Sunview applications
(such as Textedit, Sunpaint, Islanddraw and
many more...) under X window environment
(which I find much better than Sunview, of
course !). (I mean without using
Openwindows : my window manager is twm.)

Is there any solution to create a Sunview
window under X, or something like that ?

Thanks for your answer...

Yannick Lallement (lallemen@ese-metz.fr)

mouse@lightning.mcrcim.mcgill.EDU (der Mouse) (04/04/91)

> I would like to use Sunview applications (such as Textedit, Sunpaint,
> Islanddraw and many more...) under X window environment (which I find
> much better than Sunview, of course !).  (I mean without using
> Openwindows : my window manager is twm.)

There is no reason you can't use the OpenWindows server, to get sunview
application binary compatibility, and still run your choice of X
environment, including your choice of window manager.  You just need to
tell xinit (or xdm, or whatever it is that starts your server) to run
xnews instead of xinit....

Another possibility is to build your server with UseSunWindowsInServer
(I think that's the name) turned on.  (You *are* using the MIT server,
I trust.)  If you do this, you can then start up sunview, then start
the X server and have it overlay sunview.  This is not an ideal
solution, since there is no simple way provided to switch between
environments without completely exiting X[%], but it may be of some
help.  You might also look at adding a hotkey to make X "suspend"
itself, to get back to sunview without fully exiting X.

[%] Unless you have display hardware like the cg4, which provides
    multiple screens; in this case, you can start sunview on both, use
    adjacentscreens to set up switching, and run X over only one of
    them.

					der Mouse

			old: mcgill-vision!mouse
			new: mouse@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu

jc@raven.bu.edu (James Cameron) (04/05/91)

>>>>> On 3 Apr 91 12:48:30 GMT, lallemen%tintin.ese-metz.fr@esemetz.UUCP (Yannick Lallement) said:

Yannick> Hello,

Yannick> I have the following problem, and nobody
Yannick> here can help me :

Yannick> I would like to use Sunview applications
Yannick> (such as Textedit, Sunpaint, Islanddraw and
Yannick> many more...) under X window environment
Yannick> (which I find much better than Sunview, of
Yannick> course !). (I mean without using
Yannick> Openwindows : my window manager is twm.)

Yannick> Is there any solution to create a Sunview
Yannick> window under X, or something like that ?

Yannick> Thanks for your answer...

Yannick> Yannick Lallement (lallemen@ese-metz.fr)

	Yannick, it is not the window manager which would
allow you to put the SunView applications, it is the window
server.  My guess is that you are running Xsun, but that is
simply a guess.  One server which allows both X and SunView is
xnews.   It comes as part of SunOS 4.1.x

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datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri) (04/06/91)

>I would like to use Sunview applications (such as Textedit,
>Sunpaint, Islanddraw and many more...) under X window environment
>(which I find much better than Sunview, of course !). (I mean without using
>Openwindows : my window manager is twm.)

o OW comes with an xview implementation of "textedit" that runs just fine
  against a normal MIT X server.

o Your window manager has nothing to do with "Openwindows" -- nothing forces
  you to run olwm.

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