alfredo@cca.pue.udlap.mx (Alfredo de Regil) (05/06/91)
Hi Xperts:
I just have finished to build the X11R4 on SPARCs running SunOS 4.1.1.
I have some problems with the xdm program:
1) When I try to run xdm like a simple user I get the following message:
Only root wants to run xdm
When I type "run xdm" I only call the xdm program itself. Is this way
of running xdm right? How can root let to the normal users run xdm?
( In the beginnig I did not have any .xsession file in my ~/ -I only
put the Xsession file in /usr/lib/X11/xdm as root. Now I have the
.xsession file that Phil Howard propose to you but the results are
the same. )
2) As root I try to run xdm but I get the following errors in the
/usr/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-errors file. This file is:
Fatal server bug!
no screens found
This action generates another file, xdm-pid:
2066
2066
...
2066
After that, the process is done.
These are my mainly problems. I know that thats look poor in information.
I really need your help, so if I have missing some relevant info, please
let me know it.
I have read the xdm man file and I follow some steps it directs. I create
for example the /usr/lib/X11/xdm directory and all the related files that
own to this path.
Which are all my BIG errors? What have I missing? (Please note that I am
not a system administrator but I can work as root anytime)
Thanks (at least for have read this!) for you attention.
PD: Excuse my english please (my native languaje is spanish!)
-- Alfredo
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[...Mail bounced from this machine. Here's the mailer reply messages:...] ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Connected to cca.pue.udlap.mx: >>> HELO cca.pue.udlap.mx <<< 553 cca.pue.udlap.mx host name configuration error 554 <alfredo@cca.pue.udlap.mx>... Service unavailable [...And the message....] ----- Unsent message follows ----- Return-Path: <jc@raven.bu.edu> Received: from BU.EDU by cca.pue.udlap.mx (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA13478; Mon, 6 May 91 23:33:30 CST Received: from RAVEN.BU.EDU by BU.EDU (1.99) Tue, 7 May 91 01:44:48 EDT Received: from condor.bu.edu by raven.bu.edu (12/20/89); Tue, 7 May 91 01:41:29 EDT Received: by condor.bu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0.3) id AA05371; Tue, 7 May 91 01:46:48 EDT Date: Tue, 7 May 91 01:46:48 EDT From: jc@raven.bu.edu Message-Id: <9105070546.AA05371@condor.bu.edu> To: alfredo@cca.pue.udlap.mx (Alfredo de Regil) In-Reply-To: alfredo@cca.pue.udlap.mx's message of 6 May 91 15:26:26 GMT Subject: Help: XDM problems >>>>> On 6 May 91 15:26:26 GMT, alfredo@cca.pue.udlap.mx (Alfredo de Regil) said: Regil> Hi Xperts: Regil> I just have finished to build the X11R4 on SPARCs running SunOS 4.1.1. Regil> I have some problems with the xdm program: Regil> 1) When I try to run xdm like a simple user I get the following message: Regil> Only root wants to run xdm Regil> Regil> When I type "run xdm" I only call the xdm program itself. Is this way Regil> of running xdm right? How can root let to the normal users run xdm? Regil> ( In the beginnig I did not have any .xsession file in my ~/ -I only Regil> put the Xsession file in /usr/lib/X11/xdm as root. Now I have the Regil> .xsession file that Phil Howard propose to you but the results are Regil> the same. ) Regil> Yes, XDM is suppose to be run only from root. Thus, if there are public SUNS available which are not running XDM, some user cannot come along and mess things up by executing XDM. Regil> 2) As root I try to run xdm but I get the following errors in the Regil> /usr/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-errors file. This file is: Regil> Regil> Fatal server bug! Regil> no screens found This is caused by the server you are trying to from the Xservers file. Here is a simple example of what it should look like: unix:0.0 local /usr/local/X11/bin/Xsun :0 Regil> This action generates another file, xdm-pid: Regil> 2066 Regil> 2066 Regil> ... Regil> 2066 Regil> Regil> After that, the process is done. Regil> The reason you have the pid's like this, is that XDM is trying to restart itself over and over again, because it cannot start the window server. So, with the correct Xservers file, this should be fixed. Regil> These are my mainly problems. I know that thats look poor in information. Regil> I really need your help, so if I have missing some relevant info, please Regil> let me know it. Regil> I have read the xdm man file and I follow some steps it directs. I create Regil> for example the /usr/lib/X11/xdm directory and all the related files that Regil> own to this path. (* laugh *) Nope, this is *not* poor information as I had the same problems and was able to fix them with the above info. Regil> Which are all my BIG errors? What have I missing? (Please note that I am Regil> not a system administrator but I can work as root anytime) Well, your problem is most likely the Xservers file. Now, if from what I have told you doesn't help, you are welcome to either send me the files and I can take a look at them for you. Regil> Thanks (at least for have read this!) for you attention. Regil> PD: Excuse my english please (my native languaje is spanish!) Ah, I took 5 years of Spanish and still have problems with it! You speak damn good english! jc -- -- James Cameron (jc@raven.bu.edu) Signal Processing and Interpretation Lab. Boston, Mass (617) 353-2879 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "But to risk we must, for the greatest hazard in life is to risk nothing. For the man or woman who risks nothing, has nothing, does nothing, is nothing." (Quote from the eulogy for the late Christa McAuliffe.)
mouse@lightning.mcrcim.mcgill.EDU (der Mouse) (05/07/91)
> I just have finished to build the X11R4 on SPARCs running SunOS > 4.1.1. I have some problems with the xdm program: > 1) When I try to run xdm like a simple user I get the following message: > Only root wants to run xdm > When I type "run xdm" I only call the xdm program itself. Is this > way of running xdm right? Generally not. As the message says, unless you're doing something very strange, xdm should not be run except by root. This is necessary if it is to function correctly; it needs to be able to verify users' passwords and start their shells under their UIDs.... > How can root let to the normal users run xdm? You probably don't want to. In normal use, root runs xdm once, usually at boot time. It then possibly forks a server; in any case, users can run the X server and tell it to ask the xdm server for session service. > 2) As root I try to run xdm but I get the following errors in the > /usr/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-errors file. This file is: > Fatal server bug! > no screens found This looks like a problem with the X server itself, not with xdm. Try starting X via xinit instead of xdm. If you have another machine you can rlogin from, try logging in over the network and running Xsun that way. Until you can get X to start up that way, I wouldn't waste your time wondering why xdm won't behave. > Which are all my BIG errors? What have I missing? The biggest error that I see is that you're trying to make too many things work at once. Ignore xdm for now; get the server working. Then worry about making xdm behave. der Mouse old: mcgill-vision!mouse new: mouse@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
jc@raven.bu.edu (James Cameron) (05/07/91)
[...Mail bounced from this machine. Here's the mailer reply messages:...] ----- Transcript of session follows ----- Connected to cca.pue.udlap.mx: >>> HELO cca.pue.udlap.mx <<< 553 cca.pue.udlap.mx host name configuration error 554 <alfredo@cca.pue.udlap.mx>... Service unavailable [...And the message....] ----- Unsent message follows ----- Return-Path: <jc@raven.bu.edu> Received: from BU.EDU by cca.pue.udlap.mx (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA13478; Mon, 6 May 91 23:33:30 CST Received: from RAVEN.BU.EDU by BU.EDU (1.99) Tue, 7 May 91 01:44:48 EDT Received: from condor.bu.edu by raven.bu.edu (12/20/89); Tue, 7 May 91 01:41:29 EDT Received: by condor.bu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0.3) id AA05371; Tue, 7 May 91 01:46:48 EDT Date: Tue, 7 May 91 01:46:48 EDT From: jc@raven.bu.edu Message-Id: <9105070546.AA05371@condor.bu.edu> To: alfredo@cca.pue.udlap.mx (Alfredo de Regil) In-Reply-To: alfredo@cca.pue.udlap.mx's message of 6 May 91 15:26:26 GMT Subject: Help: XDM problems >>>>> On 6 May 91 15:26:26 GMT, alfredo@cca.pue.udlap.mx (Alfredo de Regil) said: Regil> Hi Xperts: Regil> I just have finished to build the X11R4 on SPARCs running SunOS 4.1.1. Regil> I have some problems with the xdm program: Regil> 1) When I try to run xdm like a simple user I get the following message: Regil> Only root wants to run xdm Regil> Regil> When I type "run xdm" I only call the xdm program itself. Is this way Regil> of running xdm right? How can root let to the normal users run xdm? Regil> ( In the beginnig I did not have any .xsession file in my ~/ -I only Regil> put the Xsession file in /usr/lib/X11/xdm as root. Now I have the Regil> .xsession file that Phil Howard propose to you but the results are Regil> the same. ) Regil> Yes, XDM is suppose to be run only from root. Thus, if there are public SUNS available which are not running XDM, some user cannot come along and mess things up by executing XDM. Regil> 2) As root I try to run xdm but I get the following errors in the Regil> /usr/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-errors file. This file is: Regil> Regil> Fatal server bug! Regil> no screens found This is caused by the server you are trying to from the Xservers file. Here is a simple example of what it should look like: unix:0.0 local /usr/local/X11/bin/Xsun :0 Regil> This action generates another file, xdm-pid: Regil> 2066 Regil> 2066 Regil> ... Regil> 2066 Regil> Regil> After that, the process is done. Regil> The reason you have the pid's like this, is that XDM is trying to restart itself over and over again, because it cannot start the window server. So, with the correct Xservers file, this should be fixed. Regil> These are my mainly problems. I know that thats look poor in information. Regil> I really need your help, so if I have missing some relevant info, please Regil> let me know it. Regil> I have read the xdm man file and I follow some steps it directs. I create Regil> for example the /usr/lib/X11/xdm directory and all the related files that Regil> own to this path. (* laugh *) Nope, this is *not* poor information as I had the same problems and was able to fix them with the above info. Regil> Which are all my BIG errors? What have I missing? (Please note that I am Regil> not a system administrator but I can work as root anytime) Well, your problem is most likely the Xservers file. Now, if from what I have told you doesn't help, you are welcome to either send me the files and I can take a look at them for you. Regil> Thanks (at least for have read this!) for you attention. Regil> PD: Excuse my english please (my native languaje is spanish!) Ah, I took 5 years of Spanish and still have problems with it! You speak damn good english! jc
jc@raven.bu.edu (James Cameron) (05/07/91)
>>>>> On 7 May 91 07:25:56 GMT, mouse@lightning.mcrcim.mcgill.EDU (der Mouse) said: > I just have finished to build the X11R4 on SPARCs running SunOS > 4.1.1. I have some problems with the xdm program: [...deleted good answers to questions about xdm...] der> This looks like a problem with the X server itself, not with xdm. Try der> starting X via xinit instead of xdm. If you have another machine you der> can rlogin from, try logging in over the network and running Xsun that der> way. Until you can get X to start up that way, I wouldn't waste your der> time wondering why xdm won't behave. The problem is the server definition in the Xservers file. If it is not set up correctly, the X server will not start, and therefore, XDM will not have anything to run on. > Which are all my BIG errors? What have I missing? der> The biggest error that I see is that you're trying to make too many der> things work at once. Ignore xdm for now; get the server working. Then der> worry about making xdm behave. der> der Mouse I don't think that his problem is tackling too many things, though at first glance it might be. The solution (as I found out) was getting the proper line in the Xservers file. jc -- -- James Cameron (jc@raven.bu.edu) Signal Processing and Interpretation Lab. Boston, Mass (617) 353-2879 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "But to risk we must, for the greatest hazard in life is to risk nothing. For the man or woman who risks nothing, has nothing, does nothing, is nothing." (Quote from the eulogy for the late Christa McAuliffe.)
chas@stax.uchicago.edu (Charles Blair) (05/08/91)
In article <JC.91May7093823@raven.bu.edu> jc@raven.bu.edu (James Cameron) writes:
The problem is the server definition in the Xservers file. If
it is not set up correctly, the X server will not start, and
therefore, XDM will not have anything to run on.
I don't think that his problem is tackling too many things,
though at first glance it might be. The solution (as I found
out) was getting the proper line in the Xservers file.
I run my X server on a PC, xdm on a Sparcstation -- what should the
Xservers file look like for xdm to run properly? (I've tried omitting
it entirely, but I'm not sure that's correct.)
--
Internet: chas@uchicago.edu
BUGS
There must be some, somewhere. (From xmessage man page)datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri) (05/09/91)
>Which are all my BIG errors?
IMHO, the biggest error you're making is using xdm at all. If I'm
logging into a machine other than my own, chances are that I don't *want*
a full X session. Often enough, I'm trying to debug some problem that
would prevent that session from coming up at all. Worse yet, if I don't
maintain a .xsession file across every machine in creation, I get stuck
with whatever defaults the machine has, which could be something egregious
like mwm.
On a workstation, it's easy enough to log in and type "xinit". On
an X terminal, it's easy enough to log in through the telnet session
and type ".xsession".
--
Fly to the sky on GI-GI____________ and shout to
datri@convex.comalfredo@cca.PUE.UDLAP.MX (Alfredo de Regil) (05/13/91)
Hi Xpeople:
I just have finished to build the X11R4 on SPARCs running SunOS 4.1.1.
I have some problems with the xdm program:
1) When I try to run xdm like a simple user I get the following message:
Only root wants to run xdm
When I type "run xdm" I only call the xdm program itself. Is this way
of running xdm right? How can root let to the normal users run xdm?
( In the beginnig I did not have any .xsession file in my ~/ -I only
put the Xsession file in /usr/lib/X11/xdm as root. Now I have the
.xsession file that Phil Howard propose to you but the results are
the same. )
2) As root I try to run xdm but I get the following errors in the
/usr/lib/X11/xdm/xdm-errors file. This file is:
Fatal server bug!
no screens found
This action generates another file, xdm-pid:
2066
2066
...
2066
After that, the process is done.
These are my mainly problems. I know that thats look poor in information.
I really need your help, so if I have missing some relevant info, please
let me know it.
I have read the xdm man file and I follow some steps it directs. I create
for example the /usr/lib/X11/xdm directory and all the related files that
own to this path.
Which are all my BIG errors? What have I missing? (Please note that I am
not a system administrator but I can work as root anytime)
Thanks (at least for have read this!) for you attention.
PD: Excuse my english please (my native languaje is spanish!)
-- Alfredo
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