[comp.windows.x] olvwm + xnews + epoch

mayer@columbia.sparta.COM (05/30/91)

I have an interesting problem, the solution to which has not been
obvious.  Before I waste more time, I'd like to see if anyone else
has had a similar problem and has any hints.  I'm using a SPARC IPC
with SunOS 4.1.1, with Sun's xnews X server and the virtual openlook
window manager off the net (olvwm).  This all started when I tried
to convince olvwm to not put a title bar on epoch's (X version of
GNU emacs) minibuffer window.  Below are the relevent lines from my
.Xdefaults.

epoch*minibuf.class:		Minibuffer
OpenWindows.MinimalDecor:	xbiff++ Console Minibuffer

The problem is everytime I start epoch with these lines in
.Xdefaults, olvwm crashes.  After some experimenting, I determined
that the minibuf.class line has nothing to do with it, its setting
MinimalDecor for epoch that causes the problem (for example, using
"epoch" instead of "Minibuffer" on the Decor line still crashes
olvwm).

It works fine when I use Sun's plain olwm or the Xsun server from
the X11 tapes.  Only when I use xnews and olvwm together does this
occur.  I've played with LD_LIBRARY paths to see if there was
problem between Sun's and regular X's stuff, but no luck.

This problem has not been completely consistent.  Most of the time,
I can consistently crash olvwm.  However, occasionally, epoch does
come up (without title bar on the minibuf and all).  I'm not
completely sure why, but I;ve almost convinced myself that this
works only if I only have another emacs or epoch window active
(i.e., by using plain emacs or epoch before adding Minibuffer to
MinimalDecor).  This last occurances has really frustrated me. 
Could there possibly be a problem with memory management on 4.1.1
(for example, shared libraries) that this particular set of
circumstances is invoking?  Beats me.

Does this sound familar to anyone?  If so, advice or hints are
appreciated.  I know that I can avoid the problem by using Xsun or
olwm, but I like the xnews + olvwm combination (I still use an
occasional SunView application, and virtual screens can't be beat).
Thanks.

--Frank Mayer (mayer@columbia.sparta.com)

PS-  Anyone figured out how to set icon Pixmap's for epoch or emacs?
 The obvious, epoch*iconPixmap, doesn`t seem to work.