Kimbrough@dsg.csc.ti.COM (Kerry Kimbrough) (07/08/88)
Can someone send more info about the X terminals from XPi and Visual?
jenkin@yunexus.UUCP (Michael Jenkin) (08/17/88)
Is there a standard for X terminals (running X over serial lines)? Ideally I'd like to know of an existing system to study, but I would be happy just to have a copy of the protocol standard. thanks Michael Jenkin York University
weltyc@nisc.nyser.net (Christopher A. Welty) (12/24/88)
I KNOW this has been discussed here before, but it's been so long since I read this group - could anyone with information on X terminals please *mail* it to me? We are interested in perhaps buying some of these. I'd like to know specifics like cost, how it works (do they require some real machine somewhere to `boot' off of, do they run anything besides a server like maybe xterm and if so do they also have a shell ... etc ...), and if you are using them how are they, adn so on. Any help is appreciated.
klee@daisy.UUCP (Ken Lee) (01/26/89)
There's an article in the current issue of *Digital Review* about X terminals.
They list these:
Visual Technology (Lowell, MA), model 640X, 68000 cpu, 12MHz, 1024x800
monochrome, 14" screen, $1995
Networking Computing Devices (Mountain View, CA), model NCD 16, 68000 cpu,
12.5MHz, ASIC graphics processor, 1024x1024 monochrome, 16" square
screen
Tektronix (Beaverton, OR), model 4211 Graphics Netstation, 386SX cpu,
TI 34010 graphics processor, 1024x768 color, 15" screen, $6495
Acer-Counterpoint (San Jose, CA), model Xebra 1000, 8086 cpu, 640x480
monochrome, $1000
DEC, no info
I don't know if any of these are currently for sale. I've seen prototypes
of the Acer and NCD terminals and they seem pretty stable. I think they're
supposed to start shipping this quarter. The DEC terminal may still be
in the vaporware stage.
Ken Lee
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Daisy Systems Corp., Interactive Graphics Tools Dept.margaret@ms.uky.edu (Malgorzata Marek Sturgill) (02/01/89)
Hi,
There was a lot of discussion n this group lately about different
X Terminals. I was wondering if anybody has a list of them and their
pro and cons. If so could you e-mail it to me. W are looking at them as an
alternative to workstations. We are running both X10 and X11 on
Microvaxes under Ultrix, Suns, and Sequent.
Thank you very much,
Margaret.
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-- Chair? I ate it. CSNET: margaret@ms.uky.csnetScott.Fahlman@B.GP.CS.CMU.EDU (02/19/89)
Why does everyone assume that a low-cost X terminal must necessarily down-load the server and all its fonts and bitmaps from some central Ethernet host? CD-ROM drives are now pretty cheap -- something like $500, I think, if you don't need fancy options. Why not put such a drive on each terminal? Then the terminal could get the vast majority of read-only info it needs from the CD-ROM, and only bother the Ethernet to get site-specific stuff. The terminal manufacturer could put out a CD with the latest server for various configurations, a large collection of fonts and bitmaps, and so on, and this could be updated every month or two. Proprietary fonts could be on the CD with some hardware interlock to prevent them from being read unless you've bought that particular license. Is anyone out there doing it this way? Is there any reason it couldn't be done this way? Scott Fahlman School of Computer Science Carnegie-Mellon University
bzs@Encore.COM (Barry Shein) (02/19/89)
From: Scott.Fahlman@B.GP.CS.CMU.EDU >Why does everyone assume that a low-cost X terminal must necessarily >down-load the server and all its fonts and bitmaps from some central >Ethernet host? CD-ROM drives are now pretty cheap -- something like $500, >I think, if you don't need fancy options. Why not put such a drive on each >terminal? The cycle of reincarnation hits the X-terminal before they're even much available! And then we can run Unix on the things and... The problem is management. This sort of thing is fine for several X-terminals in a lab, heck, you could probably get away with a 2MB 3-1/2" floppy disk for $150. But when you're talking dozens if not hundreds (read: university) of such terminals it's just another component to manage (distribute disks, fix 'em, deal with people who boot out of date revs and then call for help when things act funny etc etc.) A *major* advantage of a rom'd and/or downloaded X-terminal is going to be the extent to which it acts like a terminal: power it on and it goes (even if it magically downloads something, that's enough source of problems but let's face it, if the network isn't working properly you're sunk no matter how it boots.) It's hard to compare loading a new copy of the software once (or a few times) on a server and yelling POWER-CYCLE vs distributing say 500 disks. Remember, the biggest advantage of these things are in bigger installations. Scaled down to a few in a lab one can always wonder what the big deal is and why not just get some more complicated, more sophisticated set-up. Even the smallish price differentials seem ignorable when you're talking 5 units but takes on new meaning when considering 500 or even 100. -Barry Shein, ||Encore||
mcneill@eplrx7.UUCP (mcneill) (04/22/89)
Has anybody had any experience with X Terminals?
Please e-mail responses.
Thanks,
Keith
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| Wilmington, Delaware 19880-0357billd@celerity.UUCP (Bill Davidson) (05/16/89)
We are considering buying some X terminals to test our release
of X and (for some users) as cheap alternatives to Suns. I don't
even know where to start looking. Does anyone out there have
references for magazine reviews of X terminals? Even just a list
of vendors features and approximate prices would be a big help.
Bill Davidson ...!{ucsd,sdsu,fpssun,cogen,chip,photon}!celerity!billdwwc@boole.ece.wisc.edu (William W. Carlson) (06/07/89)
I'm thinking about getting into the market for one or more X terminals as a cheap replacement for low end workstations (where people only just rlogin elsewhere anyway). I'd be quite interested in hearing from people who have had PERSONAL EXPERIENCE with these beasts. I'm especially interested in the feel of the things (how close does it feel to a Sun 3/50 running X11) and the load they induce on a host system. Thanks for the info, and if I get a bunch of responses I will summarize to the net, so no "please send me the results" messages, please. Bill Carlson wwc@boole.ece.wisc.edu wwc%boole.ece.wisc.edu@cs.wisc.edu
yakker@schoenberg.ucr.edu (The Rastafari Yakker) (06/09/89)
Please, PLEASE, can someone do me the most helpful favor and post the
source for cursorfont.h? I need it desperately, since all of the files
I am trying to compile need it to finish their compiling! HEEELLLLPP!!
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We are considering buying X window terminals, selecting from both the
upper and lower end of the market. Does anyone have experience of such
terminals, price, performance, reliability etc. If I get sufficient
replies I will summarise the results.
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International: +44-61-236-3311 x 2626 -------------------------------ctw@sun.central-services.umist.ac.UK (Colin Walls) (06/19/89)
We are considering buying X window terminals, selecting from both the
upper and lower end of the market. Does anyone have experience of such
terminals, price, performance, reliability etc. If I get sufficient
replies I will summarise the results.
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International: +44-61-236-3311 x 2626 -------------------------------kochhar@endor.harvard.edu (Sandeep Kochhar) (09/15/89)
Hi! Can anyone who has saved the various discussions of X terminals over the last few weeks/months mail them to me? Also, I would welcome recommendations (and criticisms) about different brands and models. thanks in advance. Sandeep Kochhar (617) 495-3988 mail: kochhar@harvard.harvard.edu Harvard University kochhar@harvard.csnet 33 Oxford st, kochhar@harvard.uucp Cambridge, Ma 02138 kochhar@harvard.bitnet
klee@gilroy.pa.dec.com (Ken Lee) (10/04/89)
If anyone's interested, the Sept., 1989 issue of *DEC Professional*, a trade magazine, not affiliated with DEC, lists these X terminals. They don't say if they all really exist right now: Acer Counterpoint (408)434-0190 3 models (2 monochrome, 1 color), 14" and 15", all 640x480, prices $995 to $1995 Falco Data Producs (800)835-2648 a workstation that can be configured as a terminal, $8750 GraphOn Corp (408)435-8400 monochrome, 14", 800x600, $1395 Human Designed Systems (800)437-1551 monochrome or color, 14", 1280x1024, $1999+ Network Computing Devices (415)694-0650 monochrome, 16", 1024x1024, $2500 Northwest Digital Systems (206)524-0014 monochrome, 14", 1024x780, $2500 Peritek Corp. 2 models, both color, 15" and 19", 1024x1024, $6500+ Visual Technology Inc., (800)847-8252 2 models, both monochrome, 14" and 19", both 1024x800, $1995 and $2995 Other systems I've seen include color terminals from Tektronix and Jupiter Systems and a 19" model from NCD. Ken Lee DEC Western Software Laboratory, Palo Alto, Calif. Internet: klee@decwrl.dec.com uucp: uunet!decwrl!klee
dig@peritek.UUCP (Dave Gotwisner) (10/05/89)
This response is to correct an error in Ken Lee's post (and the *DEC* Professional* article). In article <1885@bacchus.dec.com>, klee@gilroy.pa.dec.com (Ken Lee) writes: > If anyone's interested, the Sept., 1989 issue of *DEC Professional*, a > trade magazine, not affiliated with DEC, lists these X terminals. They > don't say if they all really exist right now: > > [other products deleted] > > Peritek Corp. > 2 models, both color, 15" and 19", 1024x1024, $6500+ > > [other products deleted] > Actually, our 1K x 1K devices are not X servers. They are graphics boards which run either on Q-Bus or UNIBUS VAXes (both VMS and ULTRIX) and run X/DECWindows. We will also soon have servers running on 512x512, 640x480, and other 1Kx1K devices (also on Q-Bus VAXes). Sorry if this can be seen as an advertisement, but I hate inaccurate data on the net (or about our products). -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dave Gotwisner UUCP: ...!unisoft!peritek!dig Peritek Corporation ...!vsi1!peritek!dig 5550 Redwood Road Oakland, CA 94619 Phone: 1-415-531-6500
dig@peritek.UUCP (Dave Gotwisner) (10/05/89)
I need to read my postings more than once when I send it out. In my previous post, I said: In article <1281@peritek.UUCP>, dig@peritek.UUCP (Dave Gotwisner) writes: > [stuff deleted] > > Actually, our 1K x 1K devices are not X servers. ^^^^^^^ This should be "terminals". Our devices are NOT X-Terminals. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dave Gotwisner UUCP: ...!unisoft!peritek!dig Peritek Corporation ...!vsi1!peritek!dig 5550 Redwood Road Oakland, CA 94619 Phone: 1-415-531-6500
chris@cs.city.ac.uk (Chris Marshall) (03/07/90)
Can anyone recommend an X window terminal to run on an Ethernet ? If you can, then mail me at the address below. Many thanks. Chris Chris Marshall, Computer Science, City University, London, EC1V OHB. JANET: c.marshall@uk.ac.city.cs Phone: 01-253-4399 x3719
lms@think.com (Luis Miguel Silveira) (02/14/91)
In my Lab at MIT we are considering buying a set of Xterms. I would appreciate if anyone has recommendations about vendors, models, sizes, etc. Please e-mail me. I will post answers if there is any interest. Also experience with the type of load these machines put on a server is welcomed. We are considering putting them on the Ethernet and have a VAX and a DECstation be the font servers, etc. The requirements are: - screen larger than 15" - Ethernet and serial communication (no Slip... that doesn't work :-). What we are interested in finding out is: - maintainability - ease of use - reliability - speed (serial & Ethernet-wise) - how much do these beasties load the network or the connecting server The idea is to keep them around the Lab connected via Ethernet but later take them home (and use them with modems). Thank you very much for your attention. Please direct your answers to lms@sobolev.mit.edu -Luis Miguel -- =============================================================================== Luis Miguel Silveira e-mail : lms@sobolev.mit.edu (or) lms@think.com Research Laboratory for Electronics --- Massachusetts Institute of Technology ===============================================================================
craig@stat.tamu.edu (Craig Smith) (05/30/91)
We are looking into buying a half a dozen or so X terminals, and I'm hoping someone out there can point me in the right direction. What is the going price range for X terminals? Color is not a major concern for our purposes, but we might go that way if the price is right. Can anyone share good/bad experiences with particular vendors (Tektronics, et al.) Please reply in e-mail as I do not regularly follow this newsgroup. Thanks in advance, Craig Smith --- Craig Smith, <craig@stat.tamu.edu> Department of Statistics, Texas A&M
raf@fib.upc.es (Rafal Korycinski) (05/30/91)
You wrote : > We are looking into buying a half a dozen or so X terminals, and I'm > hoping someone out there can point me in the right direction. What is > the going price range for X terminals? Color is not a major concern for > our purposes, but we might go that way if the price is right. > Can anyone share good/bad experiences with particular vendors (Tektronics, > et al.) Please reply in e-mail as I do not regularly follow this newsgroup. I am including here amessage that I have received some time ago from xpert mailing list. Hope it will help VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV begin VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV Date: 19 Mar 91 16:01:51 GMT From: jim@applix.com Subject: X Terminal information - useful? Sender: xpert-request@expo.lcs.mit.edu To: xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu >Organization: APPLiX Inc., Westboro, MA Message-Id: <1161@applix.com> >Newsgroups: comp.windows.x I have gotten enough e-mail requests for the following list, and it is more comprehensive than the XUG FAQ list, that as a trial I am posting this, in hopes that people will let me know what they think - Is it useful? Should it be a monthly posting? Important: The information on this list has been informally collected from all sorts of sources. It is believed to have at least been reliable information at some point, but I make no statement that this information is current or correct. The prices are not quotes - in all cases contact the vendor for up to date information. I will update the list with any new information I receive that seems reliable. For any vendor I have left off the list or have incorrect information on, I apologize but please get me the updated information - that's the whole point of this! ============================================================================== X TERMINAL SPECIFICATIONS AND PRICING - LAST UPDATED 03-19-91 PLEASE SEND UPDATES, CORRECTIONS, AND COMMENTS TO: jim@applix.com Model Type, Colors/Grayscales Res. Mem. CPU/GCC List US$ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Applied Digital Data Systems 100 Marcus Blvd. Hauppauge NY 11788 (800) 388-ADDS 4515X 15" mono, 76Hz 1024x800 1.0 68020-16 3,240 4519X 19" mono, 70Hz 1280x1024 1.0 68020-16 3,990 XL14C 14" color, 256 color, 70Hz 640x480 1.5 68020-16 XL19C 19" color, 75Hz 1280x1024 68020-?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AT&T Computer Systems 1 Speedwell Ave., Morristown, NJ 07960 730X 16" mono, 60Hz 1024x1024 1.0 680XX 2,995 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bull HN Information Systems 13430 N. Black Canyon Hwy., Phoenix, AZ 85029 1600 16" mono, 70Hz 1024x1024 1.5 68020 2,500 1920 19" mono, 70Hz 1280x1024 1.5 68020 3,700 1720C 17" color, 70Hz 1024x768 1.5 68020 5,000 ****OEM versions from NCD ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Datacube Inc (JCC) 4 Dearborn Rd., Peabody MA 01960 (508) 535-4624 XS16-1 16" color, 256 color 1280x1024 4.0 68030-25 5,000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Data General Corp. 4400 Computer Dr., Westboro, MA 01580 (508) 366-8911 AUX-30 16" mono, 70Hz 1024x1024 1.6 68000 2,795 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Digital Equipment Corp., 6 Technology Park Dr. Westford MA 01886 (508) 635-8076 VT1000 15" mono, 100dpi/72Hz 1024x864 1.0 34010-50 2,895 VT1000 19" mono, 100dpi/72Hz 1024x864 2.0 34010-50 3,595 VT1000 19" mono, 100dpi/72Hz 1024x864 1.0 34010-50 13,995 VT1300 19" color,100dpi/66Hz 1280x1024 8.0 34010-50 7,500 *additional memory approximately $600/MB list **$200-300 discount with purchase of 25+ or with DEC computer system ***19" mono $13k is flat panel display, all have fans, all are thin-net only ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ GraphOn Corp., 1980 Concourse Dr., San Jose, CA 95131 (408) 435-8400 GO-250X 14" mono, 60Hz 1056x792 0.5 68000 1,895 14 14" mono, 75Hz 800x600 0.5 68000-12 995 ****14 is not traditional X terminal - requires host server code and memory ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ HMW Enterprises, 604 Salem Rd., Etters, PA 17319 9203-PM 13" color 640x480 1.0 80286 6,050 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hewlett-Packard, 3000 Hanover St., Palo Alto, CA 94303 (415) 857-1501 700/X 14" color, 16 color 640x480 1.0 34010-50 2,595 700/X 16" color, 16 color 1024x768 1.0 34010-50 700/X 19" mono, 16 gray 1024x768 2.0 34010-60 2,995 700/X 19" color, 16 color 1024x768 1.0 34010-50 700/X 17" mono, 16 gray 1024x768 1.0 34010-50 700/X 20" color, 16 color 1024x768 1.0 34010-50 4,195 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Human Designed Systems, 421 Feheley Dr., Unit E, King of Prussia, PA 19406 V142 14" mono, 640x480 34010-60 1,999 VS14 14" mono, 100dpi/60Hz 1024x1024 .5 34010-40 1,999 VS14-16 14" mono, 100dpi/60Hz 1024x1024 .5 34010-40 2,199 V162 16" mono, 1024x1024 34010-60 2,899 VS16 16" mono, 100dpi/75Hz 1024x1024 .5 34010-40 2,899 VS16-16 16" mono, 100dpi/75Hz 1024x1024 .5 34010-40 3,099 VS16-25616" mono, 100dpi/75Hz 1024x1024 .5 34010-40 3,599 VS19 19" mono, 100dpi/65Hz 1024x1024 .5 34010-40 3,799 V191 19" mono, 100dpi/65Hz 1024x864 1.5 34010-60 2,599 V192 19" mono, 100dpi/65Hz 1280x1024 34010-60 3,599 VS19-16 19" mono, 100dpi/65Hz 1024x1024 .5 34010-40 3,999 VS19-25619" mono, 100dpi/65Hz 1024x1024 .5 34010-40 4,499 VS14c 14" color, 100dpi/60Hz 1024x1024 .5 34010-40 2,999 VS14c4 14" color, 16 color 640x480 34010-60 2,999 VS15c4 15" color, 16 color 1024x768 34010-60 3,599 VS16c 16" color, 100dpi/75Hz 1024x1024 .5 34010-40 4,999 VS16c-256 16" color,100dpi/75Hz 1024x1024 .5 34010-40 5,299 VS17c 17" color, 100dpi/60Hz 1024x1024 .5 34010-40 5,499 VS17c8 17" color, 256 color 1280x1024 34010-60 4,999 VS21c 21" color, 100dpi/60Hz 1024x1024 .5 34010-40 6,999 VS21c8 21" color, 256 color 1280x1024 34010-60 5,999 *additional memory approximately $300/MB list **30%-40%developer discount ***1.0 MB PROM standard, so deduct 1.0 meg from normal x-terminal requirements ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ IBM Austin, TX XS120 12" mono-64 640x480 .5 34010-50 2,525 XS120 14" color-256 640x480 .5 34010-50 2,873 XS120 19" mono-16 1024x768 1.5 34010-50 3,610 XS120 16" color-256 color 1024x768 2.5 34010-50 5,365 XS120 19" mono-16 1280x1024 2.5 34010-50 5,040 XS120 19" color-256 1280x1024 4.5 34010-50 9,686 XS130 12" mono 2.5 34020-?? 2,650 XS130 14" color 2.5 34020-?? 3,325 *additional memory approximately $500/MB list **50% developer hardware discount ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Software Corp., 433 Park Point Dr., Ste. 275, Colden, CO 80401 PixC 19" mono, 60Hz 1560x1000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ JCC XS16-1 16" color-256 1280x1024 4.0 68030-25 5,000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jupiter Systems, 1100 Marina Village Pkwy., Alameda, CA 94501 (415) 523-9000 310 19" color 1280x1024 410 19" color, 100dpi/60Hz 1280x1024 4.0 68030-25 7,950 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Micronics Computers, Inc. 232 Warren Ave., Fremont, CA 94539 (415) 651-2300 MT19 19" mono, 100dpi/70Hz 1280x1024 2.0 80386-25 2,995 3X 14" color, 62.5Hz 1024x768 2.0 80386-25 3,499 3X 17" color, 70Hz 1024x768 2.0 80386-25 3,999 4X 14" color, 62.5Hz 1024x768 2.0 80486-25 4,499 4X 17" color, 70Hz 1024x768 2.0 80486-25 4,999 *virtual memory system **the 3X and 4X models have AT bus and the ability to be DOS PC's ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ NCR XL19 19" mono 1280x1024 4.0 68020-?? 5,340 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Network Computing Devices 350 N Bernardo Ave. Mtn View CA 94043 (415) 694-0650 NCD14c 14" color-256, 106dpi/70Hz 1024x768 4.0 68020-20 2,995 NCD15b 15" mono, 106dpi/70Hz 1024x800 2.0 68000-16 1,495 NCD16 16" mono, 106dpi/70Hz 1024x1024 1.0 68000-12 2,500 NCD16e 16" mono, 100dpi/70Hz 1024x1024 2.0 68020-15 3,200 NCD19 19" mono, 100dpi/70Hz 1280x1024 2.0 68020-15 3,700 NCD19b 19" mono, 75dpi/70Hz 1024x800 2.0 68000-16 2,295 NCD17c 17" color-256, 87dpi/70Hz 1024x768 2.0 68020-20 5,400 *additional memory approximately $300/MB list **5% discount $15-25k, 10% $25-100k, 15% $100k+ ****boot tape and software license required, $50-$500 extra ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Northwest Digital Systems, PO Box 15288, Seattle, WA 98115 (800) 537-1201 XT15 15" mono, 100dpi/76Hz 1024x800 1.0 34010-?? XT19 19" mono, 75dpi/76Hz 1024x800 1.0 34010-?? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Princeton Graphics, 1100 Northmeadow Pkwy., Roswell, GA 30076 (404) 664-1010 XC-30 16" color, 16 color 1024x768 1.0 34010-50 3,325 M-100 mono 1.0 34010-?? 1,995 M-200 mono 1.0 34010-?? 2,395 C-100 12" color 34010-?? 2,895 C-300 14" color 34010-?? 3,395 C-400 16" color 34010-?? 4,995 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Solarix Systems Fremont, CA (415) 659-1544 CX-14 14" color-256 1024x768 4.0 ????? 1,895 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Solbourne Computer 1900 Pike Rd., Longmont, CO 80501 (303) 772-3400 XDS16 16" mono 1024x1024 2.5 68000-12 3,095 XDS19 19" mono 1280x1024 4.0 68020-15 4,395 XDS17c 17" color 1024x768 4.0 68020-20 6,195 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Spectragraphics Inc., 9707 Waples St., San Diego, CA 92121 (619) 450-0611 LS815 15" mono 1024x800 2.0 68020-17 2,995 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tektronix (800) 225-5434 XN10 19" color 1024x768 2.0 5,995 XP21 17" mono 1152x900 5.0 68030-??, 2,995 34020-?? XP23 19" mono grayscale 1280x1024 3.0 XP25 14" color 1152x900 3.0 XP27 19" color 1152x900 3.0 XP29 19" color 1280x1024 3.0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visual Technology 120 Flanders Rd., Westboro, MA 01581 (508) 836-4400 X14ES 15" mono, 100dpi/82Hz 1024x800 1.0 68000-12 995 X15 15" mono, 100dpi/76Hz 1024x800 1.0 68000-16 2,340 X19 19" mono, 75dpi/66Hz 1024x800 1.0 68000-16 2,795 X19+ 19" mono, 85dpi/72Hz 1152x900 1.0 68000-16 2,795 X19T 19" mono, 100dpi/72Hz 1280x1024 1.0 68020-20 3,725 XB10 15" color or VGA 1024x768 2.0 68020-16, 34020-32 3,545 XB11 19" color, 256 color 1152x900 2.0 68020-20, 34020-40 5,365 XB12 21" color, 256 color 1280x1024 2.0 68020-20, 34020-40 6,055 *Xbase model units available unbundled without monitors, to attach to 15-pin D type connectors **X14ES display is interlaced video ****boot tape and software required, $200-$250 extra ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wyse Technology, (800) 438-9973, (408) 433-5600 X5 17" mono, 70Hz 1280x1024 1.0 68020-?? 1,799 ============================================================================== -- Jim Morton, Applix Inc., Westboro, MA ...uunet!applix!jim jim@applix.com ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ end ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Thanks in advance, Not at all. > Craig Smith /************************************************************************ / _ __ / email: raf@fib.upc.es / / / | __ / / phone: +34-3-4016940 fax : +34-3-4017040 / / /_/ / / -- /-----------------------------------------------------/ / / \ /_/_ / / Disclaimer : / / / / And this is my opinion but I disagree with it. / ************************************************************************/
dvb@emisle.uucp (David Van Beveren) (06/03/91)
In article <"275*.S=raf.OU=fib.O=upc.PRMD=iris.ADMD=..C=es."@MHS> raf@fib.upc.es (Rafal Korycinski) writes: > >I am including here amessage that I have received some time ago from xpert >mailing list. Hope it will help > >Date: 19 Mar 91 16:01:51 GMT >Important: The information on this list has been informally collected >from all sorts of sources. It is believed to have at least been reliable >information at some point, but I make no statement that this information >is current or correct. The prices are not quotes - in all cases contact ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ [lots of info deleted] It is amazing how fast this market is changing. X terminals are approaching a price/performance level that makes them very enticing in many environments, including software development. This list is out of date, because of the rapidly changing market. I suggest a monthly posting with the following fields for each model. These could be submitted to me by the companies that wish to, unless there is some net protocol that would prohibit it. I really do not want submissions from individuals since I cannot be sure that the info would be reliable. I will compile the list and around the 1st of each month I will post the findings. The record should have the following fields: Company Name, Address, Phone, FAX, e-mail contact also size of company (Annual sales $$), how long in business List the following vitals for each model: Identification, Price: Complete Model Name, Part #, List price, Memory expansion price/Meg, Quantity Discounts, Corporate Discounts Delivery lead time required Color Mode: (Color, Mono, Greyscale), #of colors or shades out of palatte size Monitor size, Refresh Rate Base Memory, Max Memory, increment level Interfaces: Thin, Thick, UTP, Serial, other Server Version (R3, R4) Supports Local Clients (Y/N) and what clients (WM, Telnet, etc.) Provides Network Manager (SNMP/CMIP) agent services (Y/N) Xdmcp compliant? (Y/N) Other Software features. Performance #'s: X-stones, X11perf mean, also include make/model of host used to get these #'s. If anyone has other vitals they think should be included, I will gladly consider them. First posting will be 1st of July. -- David Van Beveren INTERNET: emisle!dvb@ism.isc.com EIS ltd. Professional Software Services UUCP: ..uunet!emisle!dvb voice: (818) 587-1247
rick@ulticorp.UUCP (Rick Poleshuck) (06/05/91)
We are considering the purchase of 2 monochrome Xterminals to put on our ethernet to connect to an IBM RS/6000. I would like to hear about any experiences, good or bad, with particular brands and models. I would also be interested in any recommendations for memory configuration. Since I will be summarizing, please email your responses. Thanx for your help. -- | Email - !uunet!ulticorp!ultixrs!rick Rick Poleshuck | Voice - (201) 887-9222 Ext. 755 | Mail - The Ultimate Corporation, East Hanover, NJ 07936