gnu@hoptoad.uucp (John Gilmore) (05/29/86)
I applaud Bob McQueer for releasing "vn", though I'd like to point out a few things for people who haven't tried it. It came up pretty easily on my Sun (4.2BSD, 68020), modulo some zero pointer problems (wrote it on a Vax, eh Bob?). However, the documentation says that it does not rewrite your .newsrc unless you ask it to. THIS IS WRONG! Before you even unpack the sources, make a copy of your .newsrc -- because "vn" will trash it. It does not understand the idea that you might have seen an article before and might want to see it again -- so it wipes out all record of such articles. It also changes the article numbers of newsgroups that you have "banged out" with ! instead of : in your .newsrc -- so that if you do resubscribe to them, you will not see the news that's sitting in the spool area. The documentation does mention some of this but doesn't warn about the trashed .newsrc's. I found the user interface clumsier than vnews -- you have to keep track of what prompt you are at, because the same keys do different things depending on the prompt. And you have to do cursor motions to go down a page, but hit return to go to the next page, etc. The basic idea is good but the user interface is rough in spots. It WAS good for scanning a group that I haven't read in months and weeding out what I wanted to read. But it wouldn't let me just mark those messages as unread and go back to them in vnews later, having done its filtering job. It'd be nice if it could build its database in the background while you are reading the first group or two. Instead, it makes you wait until it's done scanning every group, before it will let you read any group. Try it, you might like it ---- but be sure to back up your .newsrc! -- John Gilmore {sun,ptsfa,lll-crg,ihnp4}!hoptoad!gnu jgilmore@lll-crg.arpa May the Source be with you!