[net.news] Please desist from embedding Ctrl-L's

wmartin@brl-smoke.ARPA (Will Martin ) (05/12/86)

I have noticed a distressing trend lately -- some posters embed
numerous CTRL-L characters in their postings. When you display
such postings on a screen, it causes many delays and requires that the
reader hit the space bar frequently to get through the posting. When
such postings are dumped to print for later off-line reading, they waste
much paper, often with only a few lines per printed page.

The only reason to include Ctrl-L's in a posting is to paginate a long
document into actual printed-output pages, and to insure that printers
will get top-of-form correct, such as having one at the start to keep
the header info on a separate page from the data. It is not "neat" or
"clever" to include multiple Ctrl-L's in posted text just to force
displays to pause between each of your paragraphs -- it is merely
irritating and annoying (and will therefore detract from the points you
are trying to make, not help them).

(Perhaps a line could be added to network-etiquette documentation
disparaging such practices?)

Will

ins_apmj@jhunix.UUCP (Patrick M Juola) (05/23/86)

In article <775@brl-smoke.ARPA> wmartin@brl-smoke.ARPA (Will Martin ) writes:
>I have noticed a distressing trend lately -- some posters embed
>numerous CTRL-L characters in their postings.
>
>The only reason to include Ctrl-L's in a posting is to paginate a long
>document into actual printed-output pages,... [remainder edited]
>
>(Perhaps a line could be added to network-etiquette documentation
>disparaging such practices?)
>
>Will

I disagree.  Where I have seen ^L used most frequently is in net.jokes and
net.puzzle.  In net.puzzle, they work wonders for separating the question
from the answer (much easier than trying to rot-13 only PART of a file).
In net.jokes, it either separates the joke from the punch line :

"So the lady responds :
^L
<whatever>"

or it gives the people a chance not to read the joke if they would be 
offended by it.  I think this is a good idea for several reasons, among
them : it's easy to put in a ^L, and not everyone knows how/is able to
unrotate statements.

Well, that's my $.02 -- 			Pat Juola
						Hopkins Maths

henry@mit-trillian.MIT.EDU (Henry C. Mensch) (05/25/86)

In article <2903@jhunix.UUCP> ins_apmj@jhunix.ARPA (Patrick M Juola) writes:
>I disagree. . . . . .  . In net.puzzle, they work wonders for separating
>the question from the answer  . . . . .
>In net.jokes, it either separates the joke from the punch line :
>
	You assume that everyone is using the same news software and
the same terminals as you are.  I used to have a terminal that would
have epileptic seizures when it received a ^L.  Some news software
doesn't deal with ^L's very well (old versions of vnews, for example).
The bottom line is that ^L doesn't work the same everywhere, so please
don't use it.  The rest of us will be grateful.  

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mkr@mmm.UUCP (MKR) (06/04/86)

In article <2903@jhunix.UUCP> ins_apmj@jhunix.ARPA (Patrick M Juola) writes:
>In article <775@brl-smoke.ARPA> wmartin@brl-smoke.ARPA (Will Martin ) writes:
>>I have noticed a distressing trend lately -- some posters embed
>>numerous CTRL-L characters in their postings.
>>
>>Will
>
>I disagree.  Where I have seen ^L used most frequently is in net.jokes and
>net.puzzle.  In net.puzzle, they work wonders for separating the question
>Well, that's my $.02 -- 			Pat Juola

	Well, I agree

with Will that

Control-L's are obnoxious

But on the other hand, I

agree with Pat that

They are useful in

net.jokes and net.puzzle.

Let's compromise:

Use them in net.jokes and net.puzzle, where

they are appropriate, but

keep them out of other groups.

Otherwise, I'll have to take

the responsibility upon

myself and edit my shell variables to

ignore the buggers.



		--MKR