meg@chinet.UUCP (01/26/87)
Like just about everyone else, I have my MINIX book on order too. Pardon
me if I am asking questions that have been answered already, but the system
from which I normally read news is not getting regular feeds.
1. I have an XT with 640k plus a couple of AST RAMpages - any way to use
that extra memory??
2. Does MINIX have UUCP capability, or is it to have it in the (near) future?
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Meg Geddes Chinet - Chicago, Illinois
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(Normally Meg Geddes at M-Net, but you know how these things go)wegrzyn@cdx39.UUCP (01/30/87)
In reference to UUCP on Minix, Andy Tanenbaum has already indicated that none is available with the release of the Minix sources. Perhaps we can all write Email to lauren!vortex and ask him to place is version of UUCP (called UULINK) in the public (with the same copyright restrictions and costs as Minix). Lauren sells UULINK for MSDOS for $300.00, I believe. As for using RAMpages, having read the book and looked at the source code, it should be easy to add it. I am writing a driver for a Tall Trees board - I am going to use it as a ram disk. It appears to be a simple task. Chuck Wegrzyn cdx39!wegrzyn
cccbruce@deneb.UUCP (02/01/87)
In article <629@cdx39.UUCP> wegrzyn@cdx39.UUCP (Chuck Wegrzyn) writes: > > As for using RAMpages, having read the book and looked at the source code, it >should be easy to add it. I am writing a driver for a Tall Trees board - I am >going to use it as a ram disk. It appears to be a simple task. > > Chuck Wegrzyn How about the extended memory of the AT's. Wouldn't it be simpler to have a single device driver that could use either? ...bruce -- Bruce K. Martin Jr. [UUCP] ...{lll-crg,ucbvax}!ucdavis!deneb!cccbruce (916) 756-6518 [ARPA] ucdavis!deneb!cccbruce@ucbvax.berkeley.edu --As usual, all the above views are completely my own. All proprietary names and phrases are the property of their respective firms. Is that all mom?
thomps@gitpyr.gatech.EDU (Ken Thompson) (02/01/87)
In article <629@cdx39.UUCP>, wegrzyn@cdx39.UUCP (Chuck Wegrzyn) writes: > > Perhaps we can all write > Email to lauren!vortex and ask him to place is version of UUCP (called UULINK) > in the public (with the same copyright restrictions and costs as Minix). > Lauren sells UULINK for MSDOS for $300.00, I believe. Why should we expect Lauren to be altruistic. I know from past history it took him a lot of work to develop a uucp clone without violating AT&T's copywrites. If he can sell it for $300, not an unreasonable price, assumming it works. Why should he sell it for less and allow people to copy it to boot. Lauren developed UULINK to make money. I suspect Dr. Tananbaum's goals in developing MINIX were somewhat different. I also suspect Prentice Hall views the software as a way to increase sales of the book and that is why they do not have a restrictive liscensing agreement. I get tired of people in the micro world always expecting people to give them something. It is a market, like any other. People charge what the traffic will bear. In a capitalistic society, it is unreasonable to expect them to do otherwise. If you don't like the situation, do something about it (ala Richard Stallman). Instead of expecting Lauren to give you a break, write a public domain version yourself. -- Ken Thompson Phone : (404) 894-7089 Georgia Tech Research Institute Georgia Insitute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 ...!{akgua,allegra,amd,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!gitpyr!thomps
wegrzyn@cdx39.UUCP (02/02/87)
> > I get tired of people in the micro world always expecting people to give > them something. It is a market, like any other. People charge what the > traffic will bear. In a capitalistic society, it is unreasonable to expect > them to do otherwise. If you don't like the situation, do something about > it (ala Richard Stallman). Instead of expecting Lauren to give you > a break, write a public domain version yourself. > > -- > Ken Thompson Phone : (404) 894-7089 > Georgia Tech Research Institute > Georgia Insitute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 > ...!{akgua,allegra,amd,hplabs,ihnp4,seismo,ut-ngp}!gatech!gitpyr!thomps Hey, back off! I get tired of people that jump to conclusions, particularly when they don't know what they are talking about. If Ken has anything to say that is useful and relevant to the discussion he should say it, otherwise he ought to refrain from speculation (or at least say it is speculation). While I believe in making software available to the public, I believe that it should be reasonably priced. I don't believe in religions, like GNU, and preachers like Richard Stallman. I know both Lauren and Richard; I don't know Ken. Perhaps Ken with next time find out about the things he doesn't know before he opens his mouth. Thinking and reasoning are things don't come naturally to human beings but require a certain level of effort at trying to master. I stand by what I said - perhaps Lauren can be persuaded to modify UULINK to run under Minix (or allow someone else to do it), and sell it at a price inline with Minix's pricing (or the C compiler).