broome@daffy.UUCP (01/26/87)
I've been seeing all these questions about MINIX from people who seem
to be fairly knowledgable about MINIX, presumably having read the
book... So far, I haven't been able to find a bookstore anywhere that
has it, or even anywhere that will order (they all say "our distributor
doesn't have it yet, so we can't order it for you")!! So, does anyone
out there *really* have it, and if so, could you clue me in as to where
you got it from? If I can't find it any locally, I'd even be interested
in finding someone who *can* get it who'd be willing to ship a copy or
two to me, I'll handle the $$ of course.
Also, about all the device compatibility questions - being as MINIX is
distributed with source code, what's the problem? All you really need
to do is to find some good technical docs on your particular peripheral,
a running machine to compile on, and then you can write your own device
driver. It shouldn't be that rough, assuming some understanding of what's
going on, which is what the book is for. It's not like Lotus, where you
only have a binary, and *don't* have the capability to change it. (I thought
that was part of the reason for MINIX's popularity, though I may be mistaken.)
Anyway, anyone for shared libraries and job control??
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One way to get the MINIX book is to call Computer Literacy in Sunnyvale, (408) 730-9955, or write them at 520 Lawrence Expressway, Sunnyvale CA 94086. They don't have the book yet, either, but they'll take backorders. They've always been good to me -- quick response, no order problems. I'm not connected with them except financially -- and that all in an outbound direction. -- "... the only feelings and opinions worth owning up to are one's own, arrived at independently; ...living one's life with secondhand values is like hardly living at all." -- Harry Stein Charlie Martin (...mcnc!duke!crm)
apratt@atari.UUCP (01/31/87)
in article <9110@duke.duke.UUCP>, crm@duke.UUCP (Charlie Martin) says: > > One way to get the MINIX book is to call Computer Literacy in Sunnyvale, > (408) 730-9955, > or write them at 520 Lawrence Expressway, Sunnyvale CA 94086. > They don't have the book yet, either, but they'll take backorders. They've > always been good to me -- quick response, no order problems. They DO have the book now; they had lots of copies available for attendees of Dr. Tannenbaum's talk last Wednesday. They will have the software, too, but, as mentioned here previously, it won't be ready until March. Dr. Tannenbaum also mentioned that some of the source code published in the book is a little out of date. Nothing major, but if you want to hack Minix, you'll need to read the REAL source. Finally, an anecdote from his talk: somebody mentioned GNU, and Dr. Tannenbaum said, "Mr. Stallman and I don't get along very well. In fact, Mr Stallman and X don't get along very well, for all X." /----------------------------------------------\ | Opinions expressed above do not necessarily | -- Allan Pratt, Atari Corp. | reflect those of Atari Corp. or anyone else. | ...lll-lcc!atari!apratt \----------------------------------------------/
tim@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Maroney) (02/05/87)
> Finally, an anecdote from his talk: somebody mentioned GNU, and Dr. > Tannenbaum said, "Mr. Stallman and I don't get along very well. In > fact, Mr Stallman and X don't get along very well, for all X." How true! From my meetings with Stallman, I would not be at all surprised if he had deliberately been obnoxious to Tanenbaum because that would get him more attention. This seems to be the only social strategy he knows. I view GNU as an extension of this approach. We can all agree that engineers sharing public domain code among themselves is a Good Thing, that it is very bad that people tend to slap these idiotic shareware agreements on software they would have given out free in the 1970's, and that commercial software is overpriced. But this isn't enough for Stallman; like some street person evangelist, he tries to sell us on a wholly religious and nonsensical idea that all software should be free! This is in a world where the arts are not free, the necessities are not free, knowledge is not free; apparently software is some mystical ideal, beyond all bounds of human society. Without this idiotic proviso, most of us would be enthusiastic backers of GNU, but that wouldn't be in line with Stallman's attention through obnoxiousness strategy, or his image of himself as the only truly good person in a world where all are opposed to him. This is the sort of religion one would expect from a compu-nerd, but the rest of us can hardly be expected to take it seriously. I'm sorry, but I just had to get that off my chest. -- Tim Maroney, Electronic Village Idiot {ihnp4,sun,well,ptsfa,lll-crg,frog}!hoptoad!tim (uucp) hoptoad!tim@lll-crg (arpa) Second Coming Still Vaporware After 2,000 Years
dan@prairie.UUCP (02/05/87)
>> Tannenbaum said, "Mr. Stallman and I don't get along very well. In >> fact, Mr Stallman and X don't get along very well, for all X." I dunno. I have GNU Emacs on my VaxStation, and it runs real well with X. Uses the mouse, and everything :-). -- Dan Frank ARPA: dan@db.wisc.edu ATT: (608) 255-0002 (home) UUCP: ... uwvax!prairie!dan (608) 262-4196 (office) SNAILMAIL: 1802 Keyes Ave. Madison, WI 53711-2006