sam@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu (Samuel P. Moore) (01/21/88)
Is there one place to get Minix, say FTP it, or do you have to look for a version that fits your hardware? I would like to run it on a PS/2 Model 60 with a 70 Meg. hard drive AND a clone PC with Seville mother board and 20 meg Seagate and an EGA clone. Sam
pcm@iwarpo3.intel.com (Phil C. Miller) (01/29/88)
In article <1395@ncsuvx.ncsu.edu> sam@ncsuvx.UUCP (Sam Moore) writes: >Is there one place to get Minix, say FTP it, or do you have to look for >a version that fits your hardware? I would like to run it on a PS/2 Model 60 >with a 70 Meg. hard drive AND a clone PC with Seville mother board and 20 meg >Seagate and an EGA clone. > >Sam Given that many such questions arise, perhaps some person (preferably not Phil Miller ;-) could serve as an informal moderator to respond with a prefab package of information about MINIX which was reasonably up-to-date. This package should contain as a minimum: -- name, author, publisher of (Andy's) The Book -- ordering information for floppies -- current status of ports to the Mac, Atari, ad nauseum. -- list of sites which contain archives -- list of software (e.g., ELLE, AWK, SED) which has been ported to MINIX Such information could save a lot of bandwidth if e-mailed; the pseudo- moderator could even catch all of the "me, too" information requests. Now, everybody not interested in volunteering please take two steps back (maybe we can catch someone who's asleep). Phil Miller {...}!tektronix!ogcvax!pcm or {...}!omepd!iwarp!pcm
NU070156%NDSUVM1.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu (Glen Overby) (02/02/88)
>Given that many such questions arise, perhaps some person (preferably not >Phil Miller ;-) could serve as an informal moderator to respond with a >prefab package of information about MINIX which was reasonably up-to-date. > >Now, everybody not interested in volunteering please take two steps back >(maybe we can catch someone who's asleep). > >Phil Miller I think this is a great idea. In fact, I used to do this quite a bit, but my blurb started getting out of date and I quit sending it out. I've been thinking that I should update it and start the practice up again (along with maintaining the listserv archives on Bitnet), but since Phil volunteered... :-) Glen Overby Bitnet: ncoverby@ndsuvax uucp: uunet!ndsuvax!ncoverby
pcm@iwarpo3.intel.com (Phil C. Miller) (02/03/88)
In article <1092@louie.udel.EDU> NU070156%NDSUVM1.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu (Glen Overby) writes: >>Given that many such questions arise, perhaps some person (preferably not >>Phil Miller ;-) could serve as an informal moderator to respond with a >>prefab package of information about MINIX which was reasonably up-to-date. >> >>Now, everybody not interested in volunteering please take two steps back >>(maybe we can catch someone who's asleep). >> >>Phil Miller > > I think this is a great idea. In fact, I used to do this quite a >bit, but my blurb started getting out of date and I quit sending it >out. I've been thinking that I should update it and start the practice >up again (along with maintaining the listserv archives on Bitnet), but >since Phil volunteered... :-) Sorry Glen, but I 'stepped two steps back'. Wasn't asleep :-).
ast@cs.vu.nl (Andy Tanenbaum) (02/08/88)
In article <2767@omepd> pcm@iwarp.intel.com (Phil C. Miller) writes: [suggests making up an info package] That sounds like a good idea. Here is a rough draft. Some things are left out because I forgot to include them. Other things are left out because I suffer from a chronic case of information overload. All suggestions are welcome. Andy Tanenbaum (ast@cs.vu.nl) ------------------------- MINIX information package ---------------------- MINIX INFORMATION SHEET 1. WHAT IS MINIX? MINIX is an operating system that is a subset of UNIX Version 7. It contains nearly all the V7 system calls, and these calls are identical to the corresponding V7 calls. It also includes a Bourne-compatible shell, and close to 100 utility programs, including cc, grep, ls, make, etc. To the average user, it is effectively V7 UNIX. If you dig deep enough, you will, however, find some differences. The MINIX kernel has been written from scratch by Andy Tanenbaum (ast@cs.vu.nl). It does not contain ANY AT&T code at all. The utility programs have been written by Andy Tanenbaum, his students, and a number of other people, including people on USENET. None of the utilities contain any AT&T code either. The shell, the Pascal and C compilers, make, etc. have all been completely redone. As a result, this code is not covered by the ATT UNIX license, and it can be made available. 2. WHAT CPUS DOES MINIX RUN ON? MINIX was originally written for the IBM PC, XT, and AT. It has since been ported to the NS 16032 and the 68000 (Atari ST). It will also work on many 386-based machines. A list of clones on which MINIX has been tested is included below. 3. HOW CAN I GET MINIX? MINIX is being sold by: Prentice-Hall, Englewood Cliffs, NJ 07632 (1-800-223-1360), and Prentice-Hall Int'l, Hemel, Hempstead, England (+44 442 231555) When ordering it, please specify the 640K PC version, 512K AT version or 256K PC version (which will be dropped starting with Version 1.3). The Atari version will run on any Atari ST, from a 512K machine with 1 floppy to a Mega ST with 4M and 16 hard disks. It works better on the latter. The Atari version will be available from Prentice-Hall in the late Spring. The U.S. price for the IBM version is $80. The price outside the U.S. is somewhat higher due to the way Prentice-Hall's divisions are financed. The price for the Atari version will be roughly similarly to the IBM version. All distributions contain executable binaries and the complete source code. 4. HOW CAN I FIND OUT MORE ABOUT MINIX? MINIX is described in detail in the following book: Title: Operating Systems: Design and Implementation Author: Andrew S. Tanenbaum Publisher: Prentice-Hall ISBN: 0-13-637406-9 There is also a paperback available outside the U.S. only. A German translation was begun in Feb. 1988. The software package does not contain a manual; this is contained in the appendices to the book, which also contain a complete source code listing (in C) of the MINIX kernel. 5. IS MINIX PUBLIC DOMAIN? No. MINIX has been copyrighted by Prentice-Hall. Prentice-Hall has decided to permit a limited amount of copying of the sources and binaries for educational use. Professors may make copies for students in their operating systems classes. Academic researchers may use it for their new experimental machines, and things like that. A small amount of private copying of diskettes for the use of personal friends is ok, but please do not make more than 3 copies from each original. Prentice-Hall is trying to be more reasonable than most software publishers. Please do not abuse this. Online repositories of the full source code distribution are not permitted. All commercial uses of MINIX require written permission from Prentice-Hall; for the most part, they are willing to grant such permission in return for a royalty on sales. 6. WHAT PROGRAMS COME WITH MINIX The list below gives the programs that are either distributed with Version 1.2 or have been posted to USENET since then: ar ascii basename bawk cal cat cc chmem chmod chown clr cmp comm cp cpdir date dd df diff dosread du echo ed elle expr factor fdisk find fix getlf grep gres head kill libpack libupack ln login lpr ls make mined mkdir mkfs mknod more mount mv od passwd pr prep printenv pwd readfs rev rm rmdir roff run sed sh shar size sleep sort spell split stty su sum sync tail tar tee test time touch tr treecmp umount uniq update uudecode uuencode wc Various other programs have also been posted, but the ones above are considered part of the "official" distribution and will appear in Version 1.3 (summer '88). 7. HOW DO I KEEP UP TO DATE ABOUT MINIX. If you are on USENET, subscribe to newsgroup comp.os.minix. There are about 10,000 people in this group, and new software, bug fixes, and general discussion about MINIX take place here. If you are on BITNET or ARPANET, you can get this newsgroup via a mailing list by contacting: BITNET: (does someone know this?) ARPANET: (ditto) 8. ARE THE MESSAGES POSTED TO COMP.OS.MINIX SAVED ANYWHERE? Yes. There are two archives, one run by Vincent Broman on bugs.nosc.mil and one (???) The following text was posted by Vincent Broman and describes how his archive works. >> Bugs.Nosc.Mil archives comp.os.minix news articles of lasting interest >> and other Minix material, such as a list of machines reported to be >> able to run Minix. Material of widespread interest includes diffs for >> updating v1.1 to v1.2 and preliminary fixes headed for v1.3, code developing >> toward a serial port driver, diffs for cross compilation under MS-C and >> Turbo-C, the new asld with split I&D, and recently the editor, Elle v4.1 . >> >> This material is available by anonymous FTP (during non-business hours) >> on bugs.nosc.mil in directory pub/Minix . The file SUBJECTS contains a list >> of Subject lines serving as a kind of index. The file names are mostly just >> the Message-Id of a news article. >> >> Several ways to get these kinds of goodies, in order: >> >> 1. Look, or ask someone you know to look, for articles still available >> on the machine where you read news, or on a neighbor. >> 2. Ask the person who posted the material to mail it to you. >> 3. Get access to a machine on the ArpaNet (or talk to an acquaintance who >> has access) and FTP to louie.udel.edu or bugs.nosc.mil . >> 4. To get smaller selections from the bugs.nosc.mil archive by Email, >> see the instructions following. >> 5. To get very large amounts of material from archives, talk to someone >> in charge of it, e.g. me, about mailing a tape. Surface-mailing of tapes >> is cheap. Voluminous Email is expensive, though not as expensive as >> posting news. >> >> Everything available to anonymous FTP in directory pub/Minix can be obtained by >> sending a mailed request to minix-server@bugs.nosc.mil or nosc!minix-server . >> Include in the message, either among the header fields or the body, a line like: >> >> Reply-To: <your mail address> >> >> and after that a line or lines naming desired files e.g.: >> >> send compatibility >> send SUBJECTS >> send 1180@botter.cs.vu.nl >> >> to get an automatic mailed reply. Notice file names are case sensitive. >> <your mail address> should look something like one of these examples: >> >> you@stolaf.uucp >> sdcsvax!ihnp4!mtgzz!guru >> cs.vu.nl!giant@uunet.uu.net >> person%utoronto.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu >> user%ulowell.csnet@relay.cs.net >> honcho%durham.mailnet@mit-multics.arpa . >> >> Email is not free. Abuse of the system will cause bad karma. >> Contents may have settled during shipment. >> >> >> Vincent Broman, code 632, Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA 92152, USA >> Phone: +1 619 553 1641 Internet: broman@nosc.mil Uucp: sdcsvax!nosc!broman [Will the operator of the other archive please send me an analogous message?] 9. WHAT CLONES HAS MINIX BEEN TESTED ON? MINIX runs on the IBM PC, XT, and AT. It also runs on those clones that are IBM compatible. You would be amazed at how many are not. The following list was compiled by Vincent Broman from postings to comp.os.minix: Computer info source MINIX runs? HD runs? --------- ----------- ----------- -------- AMT-ATjr darren@ethos.uucp yes ARC Turbo XT clone m692040@sdsu.uucp yes AT&T 6300 dklann@marque.uucp yes no AT&T 6300 jcs@chinet.uucp yes yes with fix of go ATronics AT clone hubble@cae780.uucp yes ATronics XT clone dhb@bek-mc.caltech.edu yes yes w/ fix Aerocomp Clone rmtodd@uokmax.uucp yes no Amstrad steve@warwick.uucp yes no BIOS silent partner ast@cs.vu.nl yes yes Commodore PC-10 II ast@cs.vu.nl yes yes Compaq 386 ast@cs.vu.nl no Compaq DeskPro walker@xanth.uucp yes Compaq DeskPro 286 walker@xanth.uucp yes Compaq Portable cavender@drivax.uucp yes yes w/fix Compaq Portable II foster@beno.css.gov yes Computer Classfd ST/286 myxm@lanl.gov yes Corona PC-400 dtinker@utoronto.bitnet yes Corona PC-400 janet@unrvax.uucp no (see below) Epson Equity 3 ast@cs.vu.nl yes yes Faraday motherboard jallen@netxcom.uucp yes Ferranti PC860/XT lyo@uk.ac.newcastle.cheviot yes yes w/ fix GRID GridCase 3 steven@cwi.nl yes Honeywell AP ast@cs.vu.nl yes yes HP Vectra eric@unmvax.unm.edu no IBM PC ganesh@utah-cs.uucp yes IBM PC-AT @6MHz ast@cs.vu.nl yes yes IBM PC-AT @8MHz ast@cs.vu.nl yes no IBM PC-XT ast@cs.vu.nl yes yes 10Mb IBM PC-XT-286 ast@cs.vu.nl yes no IBM PC Convertible bdale@winfree.uucp no IBS system 2000 sbanner1@sol.uvic.cdn yes yes w/ fix IMC XT, 8MHz V20, beugel@klipper.cs.vu.nl yes ITT XTRA ast@cs.vu.nl yes Kaypro 286i (AT) comp13@tjalk.cs.vu.nl yes Kaypro PC ken@driwash.uucp yes Leading Edge clone ganesh@utah-cs.uucp yes Leading Edge models M&D wegrzyn@cdx39.uucp yes Leading Edge MP-1673 wjc@eddie.mit.edu yes no NCR PC8 ast@cs.vu.nl yes no Samsung clone ganesh@utah-cs.uucp yes SEFCO AT Clone dhb@bek-mc.caltech.edu yes yes? Shitel ast@cs.vu.nl no Tandy 1000 kimery@wdl1.uucp no Tandy 1000SX,1000EX john@moncol.uucp no Tandy 1000 johnc@mia.uucp yes w/fix yes w/fix Tandy 1200 modified bdale@winfree.uucp yes Televideo Telenix 286 ast@cs.vu.nl yes Toshiba T1100+ bdale@winfree.uucp yes Toshiba T1100+ stuart@bms-at.uucp yes Unisys micro IT ast@cs.vu.nl yes yes Unnamed Asian Clone arthur@ubu.uucp yes Xerox 6085 PC emulator lindsay@cheviot.newcastle.ac.uk yes yes XT-2000 clone subelman@ttidca.tti.com yes Zenith 150 n0ano@wldrdg.uucp yes no Zenith Z-151 zemon@felix.uucp yes yes w/ fix Zenith 181 bdale@winfree.uucp yes Zenith Z-248 (AT) ast@cs.vu.nl yes yes (20 Mb) Disks Info source Comment ----------- ----------- ------- Adaptec 2002/Rodime bdale@winfree.uucp works with fix of n0ano@wldrdg Data Technology Corp ast@cs.vu.nl AT controller; works DTC-5150BX HDC lyo@uk.ac.newcastle.cheviot runs with fix Everex AT compat HD myxm@lanl.gov HD troubles Maynard Corp Hard Card ganesh@utah-cs.uucp not compat Seagate 4026, IBM Ctrlr sheu@gitpyr.gatech.edu runs with fix of hubble@cae780 Seagate ST4906 80Mb HD hubble@cae780.uucp yes with posted fix WD 1002S-WX2 HDC, ST225, go@orstcs.uucp runs with posted fix WD 1002A-WX1 HDC, Rodine 204, bdale@winfree.uucp runs with fix of n0ano@wldrdg WD 1002/ST225 HD albery@ncoast.uucp won't run yet WD 1003-WA3 FDC comp13@tjalk.cs.vu.nl runs with posted fix Xebec HDC 20Mb disk arthur@warwick.uucp works, but hd <3Mb only Xebec HDC, 10Mb HD m692040@sdsu.uucp runs if minix on 1st partition Z150 Hard Disk n0ano@wldrdg.uucp works with posted fix Bernoulli disk acharya@sbcs has problems doing mkfs thereon Toshiba T1100+ 720K stuart@bms-at.uucp supported by posted fixes AT&T 6300 Floppies ast@cs.vu.nl supported by posted mod Video cards Info source Comment ----------- ----------- ------- Corona PC-400 own display janet@unrvax.uucp cursor stuck, scrolls wrong. CT-6040S mono-graphics go@orstcs.uucp support by posted fix EGA video ast@cs.vu.nl not working, fixes suggested (EGA) NEC GB-1 vizard@dartvax scroll fix unsuccessful also PGC sheu@gitpyr.gatech.edu fine Sigma Designs Color 400 bc@njitsc1.uucp incompat, causes NMIs Tecmar Graphics Master sbanner1@sol.uvic.cdn CGA emul probs like EGA Toshiba T1100+ display stuart@bms-at.uucp scroll problem, mod posted Printers Info source Comment --------- ----------- ------- Epson FX-80 prtr arthur@warwick.uucp unreliable prtr driver printer MSDOS ok, Minix not, dlong@sdsu.uucp supported by posted fix. Other boards Info source Comment --------- ----------- ------- AST Six Pack Clock tsp@killer.uucp support by posted code AST Six Pack Premium go@orstcs.uucp clock code posted ... MegaPlus diamant@hpfclp.hp.com simpler clock code posted MCT multi-IO card myxm@lanl.gov code for clock setting posted Multi-IO card/AMT-ATjr darren@ethos.uucp none of above clock code worked CompuAdd MFC cavender@drivax.uucp myxm's clock code worked Alpha Micro Videotrax zemon@felix.uucp board is inimical