[comp.os.minix] Minix Information: All the Answers!

ncoverby@ndsuvax.UUCP (Glen Overby) (10/05/88)

(I never give up!  New this month:
	The Mars Hotel BBS archives
	updated Compatability List)

[Most recent change: 04 Oct 1988 by ncoverby@Plains.NoDak.EDU (Glen Overby)]
[Origional From ast@cs.vu.nl (Andy Tannenbaum ) 88/02/23]

MINIX INFORMATION SHEET

1. WHAT IS MINIX?
MINIX is an operating system that is a subset of UNIX Version 7.  It contains 
nearly all the V7 system calls, and these calls are identical to the 
corresponding V7 calls.  It also includes a Bourne-compatible shell, and close
to 100 utility programs, including cc, grep, ls, make, etc.  To the average
user, it is effectively V7 UNIX.  If you dig deep enough, you will, however,
find some differences.

The MINIX kernel has been written from scratch by Andy Tanenbaum (ast@cs.vu.nl).
It does not contain ANY AT&T code at all.  The utility programs have been 
written by Andy Tanenbaum, his students, and a number of other people,
including people on USENET.  None of the utilities contain any AT&T code
either.  The shell, the Pascal and C compilers, make, etc. have all been 
completely redone.  As a result, this code is not covered by the ATT UNIX
license, and it can be made available.  

2. WHAT CPUS DOES MINIX RUN ON?
MINIX was originally written for the IBM PC, XT, and AT.  It has since been
ported to the NS 16032 and the 68000 (Atari ST).  It will also work on many
386-based machines.  A list of clones on which MINIX has been tested is
included below.

3. HOW CAN I GET MINIX?
MINIX is being sold by:

   Prentice-Hall, Englewood Cliffs, NJ 07632 (1-800-223-1360), and
   Prentice-Hall Int'l, Hemel, Hempstead, England (+44 442 231555)

When ordering it, please specify the 640K PC version, 512K AT version or
256K PC version (which will be dropped starting with Version 1.3).  The Atari
version will run on any Atari ST, from a 512K machine with 1 floppy to a Mega
ST with 4M and 16 hard disks.  It works better on the latter.  The Atari version
will be available from Prentice-Hall in the late Spring.

The U.S. price for the IBM version is $80.  The price outside the U.S. is
somewhat higher due to the way Prentice-Hall's divisions are financed.
The price for the Atari version will be roughly similarly to the IBM version.

All distributions contain executable binaries and the complete source code.

4. HOW CAN I FIND OUT MORE ABOUT MINIX?
MINIX is described in detail in the following book:

   Title:	Operating Systems: Design and Implementation
   Author:	Andrew S. Tanenbaum
   Publisher:	Prentice-Hall
   ISBN:	0-13-637406-9

There is also a paperback available outside the U.S. only.  A German 
translation was begun in Feb. 1988.  The software package does not contain a 
manual; this is contained in the appendices to the book, which also contain a
complete source code listing (in C) of the MINIX kernel.

5. IS MINIX PUBLIC DOMAIN?
No.  MINIX has been copyrighted by Prentice-Hall.  Prentice-Hall has decided to
permit a limited amount of copying of the sources and binaries for educational
use.  Professors may make copies for students in their operating systems
classes.  Academic researchers may use it for their new experimental machines,
and things like that.  A small amount of private copying of diskettes for the
use of personal friends is ok, but please do not make more than 3 copies from
each original.  Prentice-Hall is trying to be more reasonable than most
software publishers.  Please do not abuse this.    Online repositories of the
full source code distribution are not permitted.  All commercial uses of MINIX
require written permission from Prentice-Hall; for the most part, they are
willing to grant such permission in return for a royalty on sales.

6. WHAT PROGRAMS COME WITH MINIX
The list below gives the programs that are either distributed with Version 1.2
or have been posted to USENET since then:

ar ascii basename bawk cal cat cc chmem chmod chown clr cmp
comm cp cpdir date dd df diff dosread du echo ed elle expr
factor fdisk find fix getlf grep gres head kill libpack libupack ln
login lpr ls make mined mkdir mkfs mknod more mount mv od
passwd pr prep printenv pwd readfs rev rm rmdir roff run sed
sh shar size sleep sort spell split stty su sum sync tail
tar tee test time touch tr treecmp umount uniq update uudecode uuencode wc

Various other programs have also been posted, but the ones above are considered
part of the "official" distribution and will appear in Version 1.3 (summer '88).

7. HOW DO I KEEP UP TO DATE ABOUT MINIX.
If you are on USENET, subscribe to newsgroup comp.os.minix.  There are about
10,000 people in this group, and new software, bug fixes, and general discussion
about MINIX take place here.  If you are on BITNET or ARPANET, you can get this
newsgroup via a mailing list by contacting:
   ARPANET: info-minix-request@udel.edu
   BITNET:  sending a message (either interactive or mail) to listserv@ndsuvm1 
	    saying: 
		signup minix-l Your_Full_Name
   
8. ARE THE MESSAGES POSTED TO COMP.OS.MINIX SAVED ANYWHERE?

Yes.  There are several archives, providing various levels of editing and
organization.

8.1 Internet: Bugs.Nosc.Mil


Bugs.Nosc.Mil archives comp.os.minix news articles of lasting interest
and other Minix material, such as a list of machines reported to be
able to run Minix.  Material of widespread interest includes diffs for
updating v1.1 to v1.2 and preliminary fixes headed for v1.3, code for
a serial port driver, diffs for cross compilation under MS-C and
Turbo-C, the new asld with split I&D, the editor Elle v4.1, and
recently a port of C-Kermit.

This material is available by anonymous FTP (during non-business hours)
on bugs.nosc.mil in directory pub/Minix .  The file SUBJECTS contains a list
of Subject lines serving as a kind of index.  The file names are mostly just
the Message-Id of a news article.

Several ways to get these kinds of goodies, in order:

1.  Look, or ask someone you know to look, for articles still available
on the machine where you read news, or on a neighbor.
2.  Ask the person who posted the material to mail it to you.
3.  Get access to a machine on the ArpaNet (or talk to an acquaintance who
has access) and FTP to louie.udel.edu or bugs.nosc.mil .
4.  To get smaller selections from the bugs.nosc.mil archive by Email,
see the instructions below.
5.  To get very large amounts of material from archives, talk to someone
in charge of it, e.g. me, about mailing a tape.  Surface-mailing of tapes
is cheap.  Voluminous Email is expensive, though not as expensive as
posting news.

Everything available to anonymous FTP in directory pub/Minix can be obtained by
sending a mailed request to minix-server@bugs.nosc.mil or nosc!minix-server .
Include in the message, either among the header fields or the body, a line like:

Reply-To: <your mail address>

and after that a line or lines naming desired files e.g.:

send compatibility
send SUBJECTS
send 1180@botter.cs.vu.nl

to get an automatic mailed reply.  Notice file names are case sensitive.
<your mail address> should look something like one of these examples:

you@stolaf.uucp
sdcsvax!ihnp4!mtgzz!guru
cs.vu.nl!giant@uunet.uu.net
person%utoronto.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
user%ulowell.csnet@relay.cs.net
honcho%durham.mailnet@mit-multics.arpa

Email is not free.  Abuse of the system will cause bad karma.
Contents may have settled during shipment.


Vincent Broman,  code 632, Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA 92152, USA
Phone: +1 619 553 1641    Internet: broman@nosc.mil   Uucp: sdcsvax!nosc!broman

8.2 Internet: Simtel20.Arpa

The following was supplied by Glen Overby and describes how to access the
archives on simtel20.arpa:


A limited archive of MINIX related material is available from simtel20.arpa
in the directory PD:<MISC.MINIX>. These same files are available on Bitnet
from LISTSERV@RPICICGE in the same directory.

To get these files from LISTSERV@RPICICGE, use the /pddir and /pdget commands
for a directory listing and file retrieval, respectively.

8.3 Bitnet: NDSUVM1.BITNET / Internet: vm1.NoDak.Edu


At NDSU we have two archives of information about Minix on our LISTSERV. The
first is an automated log of all messages sent to the MINIX-L list, and the
other is an manually organized archive of sources sent to the list.  Both are
accessed by sending either interactive messages (bitnet only) or mail (all
other networks) to LISTSERV@NDSUVM1. Some possible addresses from other
networks are:

        Bitnet: listserv@ndsuvm1
        Internet: listserv@vm1.NoDak.EDU
        UUCP: psuvax1!ndsuvm1.bitnet!listserv

    **NOTE** Many Unix sites have had difficulty contacting this server
    because it is VERY stringent about what it accepts as valid mail.

The mailing list logs are kept in the "MINIX-L" section, with all filenames
of the form:

    MINIX-L LOGyymmw

where "yy" is the year, "mm" is the numeric month and "w" is an alphabetic
character from A to E indicating what week of the month.  Several months of
log files are kept on-line, the number depending on disk space availability.

Database functions are also available on the listserv to aid in searching
this archive.  To obtain a "Subject" index of the MINIX-L archives, send the
listserv a file or mail with the following "job" in the message body:

//      JOB  Echo=No
Database Search DD=Rules
//Rules DD   *
search * in minix-l since 871201
index

and you will be sent a file containing all of the "Subject:" lines sent to
MINIX-L@NDSUVM1 (the Bitnet side of the Minix discussion lists) since
January 1, 1988.  If you wish to request one or more items, replace the
"index" line in the above "job" with "print [refnum]" where "refnum" is the
reference number contained in the index listing.  Documentation on all
database functions is available by sending the following command (contents
of the body of a message) to the listserv:

	INFO DATABASE


The other (manually maintained) archives are kept in the "MINIX" section.

To obtain a list of the files in either of these archive sections, send
the command:

        INDEX MINIX
    or
	INDEX MINIX-L

Files are retrieved with the 'GET' command:

        GET MORE INFO MINIX

to get the file "MORE INFO" from the group "MINIX".

For a complete list of information on the listserv:

        INFO ?

Due to the 80-character per line (punched card) limit on Bitnet mail, many of
the files will be shipped using an encoding scheme that allows logical lines
to be split up into many physical lines.  The default for going to other
networks is "Listserv Punch".  Information on obtaining a program to decode
listserv punch format is sent with each encoded file.

Please direct all comments and questions about this archive to Glen Overby at
<nu070156@ndsuvm1.bitnet> or <nu070156@vm1.NoDak.EDU>

8.4 BBS: The Mars Hotel


>From: jds@mimsy.UUCP (James da Silva)

I run a PC-based Electronic Bulletin Board System (BBS) that has
carried the traffic of Usenet's Comp.os.minix steadily since August,
1987. Early this year I started providing a formal Minix archive,
similar to the archive on bugs.nosc.mil.  I have been providing this
service for those who are not lucky enough to have net or ftp access.

The BBS is not a true gateway to Usenet, like some Fidonet nodes are;
rather it is a "delivery service" whereby new comp.os.minix articles
are gathered daily and posted as messages on the BBS.  Long articles
are automatically ARC'ed and posted to the file area for downloading.
I keep the raw traffic around for about 2 months.

At around the 15th of each month I edit the previous month's traffic
to keep articles of lasting interest, which I post in the archive for
that month.  I divide the month's archive into several ARC files, all
less than 100k, to make downloading easier.  For any given month, the
index of articles is in MNXyymmA.ARC, and the actual articles start in
MNXyymmB.ARC.  You can just download the index, then download the ARC
files that contain articles of interest to you.  A complete index is
always in MNXINDEX.ARC.

The archive starts with August, 1987.

Call:
        The Mars Hotel BBS, (301)470-3569 (PC-Pursuitable)
            300,1200,2400 baud, 8,n,1.

        No registration required, no donations accepted.
        Everyone gets 60 minutes/day.
        No upload/download ratios (but don't be a jerk!)

        Spread the word to those without net.access.

usenet:   uunet!mimsy!jds 				James da Silva
internet: jds@mimsy.umd.edu
      "Stand on each other's shoulders, not on each other's toes."



9. WHAT CLONES HAS MINIX BEEN TESTED ON?

MINIX runs on the IBM PC, XT, and AT.  It also runs on those clones that are
IBM compatible.  You would be amazed at how many are not.  The following list
was compiled by Vincent Broman from postings to comp.os.minix:


Here is my aperiodic posting of a synopsis on "Which Machines Run Minix?"
Send updates to me, including your mailing address, the precise hardware
you tried Minix out on, the version[s] of Minix involved, and
any helpful comments.  I cull net postings for this info, too.

If you see a "fix" entry for your machine below, the code fixes necessary
to make Minix run on your machine can be obtained either from the
named source of the report or else from the Minix archives.
Look for posted articles from the person/machine supplying the
compatibility report, probably with a Subject line like "Tandy fixes"
or something equally alerting.

The Hard disk info is confusing, but the synopsis is: many hardisks
didn't work under v1.1 but do under v1.2 .



                =================================================
                M I N I X   C O M P A T I B I L I T Y   S H E E T
                =================================================
                This version dates              15 september 1988
                =================================================

SW = SoftWare, HD = HardDisk, yes = vanilla version runs, no = not yes,
fix = works with some fix(posted or not), hotboot = works if warm boot.
u = unknown ( yet ) [ do something about it, send the editor email ].

'*' in "editor choice of column" means that the respondent did not indicate
whether his/her information applied to 1.1 or 1.2, or that information got
lost and the editor inserted the information into the column he deemed most
appropiate. It may be the wrong column however, so be warned.

Version 1.0 is the version in the book. MINIX 1.1 is the oldest you may have
and the differences are minor. V1.2 is available from Prentice-Hall.
V1.3 doesn't exist yet, except in a preliminary beta-test form.


COMPUTER                MINIX 1.1       editor  MINIX 1.2       INFO SOURCE
----------------------  ---------       choice  ---------       -----------
                        SW      HD      of      SW      HD
                                        column
386 AT compact          no      u               yes     u       [jds]
AMT-ATjr                u       u       *       yes     u       [darren]
AMT 386                 no      u       *       u       u       [wes]
ARC Turbo XT            u       u       *       yes     u       [m692040]
Atari ST                Not Yet Released                        [ast]
AT&T 6300               u       u               yes     no      [pechter]
AT&T 6300               u       u       *       yes     fix     [jcs]
AT&T 6300+              yes     fix             yes     fix     [kav]
AT&T 6300+ w/ 1.2Mb flp u       u       *       fix     u       [kav]
AT&T 6312 WGS		u	u		yes	u	[jimj]
ATronics AT             u       u       *       yes     u       [hubble]
ATronics XT             u       u       *       yes     fix     [dhb]
Acer 1100               no      u       *       u       u       [wes]
Aerocomp                yes     no              yes     yes     [rmtodd]
Amiga 1000/Sidecar      u       u       *       yes     u       [becker]
Amstrad                 u       u       *       yes     no      [steve]
Amstrad Portable	yes	u		u	u	[rj]
BIOS silent partner	yes	yes             u	u	[ast]
Bullet 286 XT           yes     no              yes     yes     [hgm]
CAF Turbo College       u       u       *       yes     fix     [megevand]
Commodore PC-10 I       no      u       *       u       u       [henkp]
Commodore PC-10 II      u       u       *       yes     yes     [ast]
Commodore PC-40         u       u       *       yes     u       [henkp]
Compaq 386              no      u		u       u       [ast]
Compaq DeskPro          u       u       *       yes     u       [walker]
Compaq DeskPro 286      u       u       *       yes     u       [walker]
Compaq DeskPro 286 (CDC HD) u   u               yes     no      [jps]
Compaq Portable         u       u       *       yes     fix     [cavender]
Compaq Portable 2	no	u		u	u	[ast]
Compaq Portable II      u       u       *       yes     u       [foster]
CompuAdd Std 286/10     yes	yes		yes	yes	[edhall]
Computer Classfd ST/286 u       u       *       yes     u       [myxm]
Corona PC-400           u       u       *       yes     u       [dtinker]
Corona PC-400           no      u               yes     u       [broman]
Datavue Spark Portable  u       u       *       yes     u       [tcoram]
DEC VAXmate             u       u               yes     u       [bengtb]
DTK mothrbd @8MHz w/V20 u       u       *       yes     u       [ncoverby]
Epson Equity II         u       u       *       yes     u       [ppychin]
Epson Equity 3          yes     yes             u       u       [ast]
Epson PC AX             yes     u               yes     u       [chang]
Faraday motherboard     u       u       *       yes     u       [jallen]
Ferranti PC860/XT       u       u       *       yes     fix     [jel]
Fountain AT             u       u       *       yes     yes     [mclean]
GRiD GridCase 3         u       u       *       yes     u       [steven]
Honeywell AP		yes	yes		u	u	[ast]
HP Vectra               no      u       *       u       u       [eric]
IBM AT-339              u       u               yes     yes     [hysell]
IBM PC                  u       u       *       yes     u       [ganesh]
IBM PC/AT @6MHz		yes	yes		u	u	[ast]
IBM PC/AT @8MHz		yes	no		u	u	[ast]
IBM PC/XT 1OM HD	yes	yes		yes	yes	[ast]
IBM PC/XT-286		yes	no		u	u	[ast]
IBM PC Convertible      no      u       *       u       u       [bdale]
IBM PS/2 various	no	no		u	u	[rj]
IBS system 2000         u       u       *       yes     fix     [sbanner1]
IMC XT, 8MHz V20        u       u       *       yes     u       [beugel]
Intel iSBC 386AT        yes     fix             yes     yes     [jds]
ITT XTRA                u       u       *       yes     u       [ast]
ITT XTRA Prof 700       no      u       *       u       u       [c0033003]
Jameco JE-1003 AT Board u       u               yes     yes     [roskos]
Kaypro 286i             u       u       *       yes     u       [comp13]
Kaypro PC               u       u       *       yes     u       [ken]
Leading Edge            u       u       *       yes     u       [ganesh]
Leading Edge models M&D u       u       *       yes     u       [wegrzyn]
Leading Edge MP-1673    u       u       *       yes     no      [wjc]
Leading Edge model D    u       u       *       no      u       [comberiati]
Leading Edge D2         u       u               hotboot u       [darylm]
Multitech ACCEL 900     u       u       *       yes     no      [twaites]
NCR PC8			yes	no		u	u	[ast]
NCR PC-8, Wren 1 HD     yes     u               yes     u       [tdavis]
NEC APC IV, Rev A BIOS  no      u       *       u       u       [wes]
NEC APC IV, Rev B BIOS  u       u       *       yes     u       [wes]
Nokia ASC               u       u               yes     yes     [nispa]
Olivetti M24            u       u       *       yes     fix     [vanderpol]
Osborne 6T              u       u       *       yes     yes     [nispa]
PC's Limited Turbo PC   u       u               yes     yes     [sullivan]
PC's Limited 286 8MHz   yes     yes             u       u       [b_badger]
Philips P3101 PC        yes     fix             u       u       [willy]
Samsung                 u       u       *       yes     u       [ganesh]
SEFCO AT                yes     yes             u       u       [dhb]
Shitel                  no      u               u       u       [ast]
Sun IPC                 yes     u               u       u       [paula]
Tandon PCA20            u       u       *       yes     yes     [henkp]
Tandy 1000              no      u       *       u       u       [kimery]
Tandy 1000SX,1000EX     no      u       *       u       u       [john]
Tandy 1000              u       u       *       fix     fix     [johnc]
Tandy 1200 modified     u       u       *       yes     u       [bdale]
Televideo AT @8MHz      u       u               yes     no      [corley]
Televideo Telenix 286	yes	no		u	u	[ast]
Toshiba T1100+          u       u       *       yes     u       [bdale]
Toshiba T1100+          u       u       *       yes     u       [stuart]
Tulip Compact II        yes     u               yes     u       [chang]
Unisys micro IT		yes	yes		u	u	[ast]
Unnamed Asian Clone     u       u       *       yes     u       [arthur@u]
Victor Champion (V30)	yes	fix		yes	fix	[clark]
Win Labs Turbo-AT       u       u               fix     yes     [roskos]
Xerox 6085 PC emulator  u       u       *       yes     yes     [lindsay]
XT-2000                 u       u       *       yes     u       [subelman]
Zenith Z-151            u       u       *       yes     fix     [zemon]
Zenith 181              u       u       *       yes     u       [bdale]
Zenith Z-248 20 M HD    u       u               yes     yes     [ast]
Zenith Z-386            u       u               yes     yes     [cs002]

Video card                      Comment                         Source
----------                      -------                         ------
ATI EGA Wonder                  fine                            [megevand]
Corona PC-400 own display       cannot curse or scroll in v1.1  [broman]
CT-6040S mono-graphics          support by posted fix           [go]
EGA video                       not working, fixes suggested    [ast]
(EGA) NEC GB-1                  scroll fix unsuccessful also    [vizard]
Hercules                        scrolling problems              [mike]
Hercules compat on IMC clone    v1.2 fine                       [beugel]
MonoGraphics MG-150             v1.1 & v1.2 fine		[edhall]
PGC                             fine                            [sheu]
Sigma Designs Color 400         incompatible, causes NMIs       [bc]
Tecmar Color Card               problems like EGA. (v1.1,1.2)   [jss]
Tecmar Graphics Master          CGA emul probs like EGA         [sbanner1]
Toshiba T1100+ display          scroll problem, mod posted      [stuart]
Video 7 on IBM AT               screen blanks periodically      [cline]

Disks                           Comment                         Source
-----                           -------                         ------
Adaptec 2002/Rodime             with fix of [n0ano]             [bdale]
Adaptec ACB2072 HDC             v1.1 no                         [wtoomey]
Adaptec 2070A RLL HDC           v1.2 with his mods              [backstro]
Data Technology Corp            AT controller; works            [ast]
DTC-5150BX HDC                  runs with fix                   [jel]
DTC-5150CX HDC                  v1.2 wont fsck                  [werner]
DTC-5287 AT-RLL HDC             v1.2 wont fsck                  [bdale]
Everex AT compat HD             HD troubles                     [myxm]
HC-100 C2 HDC/ST-125            v1.2 wont work                  [nick]
HardCard 20                     v1.2 ok                         [dcd]
LCS-6210 HDC                    v1.1&v1.2 wont run it           [y85]
Maynard Corp Hard Card          not compat                      [ganesh]
Miniscribe 3650/WD1003-WA2 HDC  v1.1&v1.2 ok, (fix fsck hd cnt) [edhall]
Mod.Circ.Tech. AT/FH controller	floppy and wini both work       [roskos]
NEC D5126 HDU                   runs with own fix on Oliv-M24   [vanderpol]
NCL HDC on AT                   unexpected traps                [esc1319]
NCL HDC                         runs only with sketched fix.    [ptk]
Omti 5527 RLL on ST238          yes with fix not posted         [megevand]
Seagate 4026, IBM Ctrlr         runs with fix of [hubble]       [shue]
Seagate ST4906 80Mb HD          v1.1&v1.2 only w/ his fix       [hubble]
ST238R/ST11R RLL HDC            ran with fixes from UseNet      [willy]
Miniscribe 3012/Philips DCM     had to write own driver         [willy]
Tandon Tm262 20Mb+WDCtl         ok for 10Mb only                [sas]
WD 1002S-WX2 HDC, ST225         runs with posted fix            [go]
WD 1002A-WX1 HDC, Rodine 204    runs with fix of [n0ano]        [bdale]
WD 1002/ST225 HD                v1.1 runs given diff HD params  [allbery]
WD 1003-WA3 FDC                 runs with posted fix            [comp13]
WD controllers                  supported by v1.2 kernel.       [ast]
Xebec HDC 20Mb disk             works,but hd <3Mb only          [arthur@w]
Xebec HDC, 10Mb HD              runs if minix on 1st partition  [692040]
Z150 Hard Disk                  works with posted fix           [n0ano]
Bernoulli disk                  has problems doing mkfs thereon [acharya]
Toshiba T1100+ 720K             supported by posted fixes       [stuart]
AT&T 6300 Floppies              supported by posted mod         [ast]

Printer                         Comment                         Source
-------                         -------                         ------
Epson FX-80 prtr                unreliable prtr driver v1.1     [arthur@w]
printer MSDOS ok, Minix not     supported by posted fix.        [dlong]
Seikosha SP1200AI               bitnet wont work properly       [megevand]

Other boards            Comment                                 Source
------------            -------                                 ------
AST Six Pack Clock      support by posted code                  [tsp]
AST Six Pack Premium    clock code posted                       [go]
AST MegaPlus            simpler clock code posted               [diamant]
MCT multi-IO card       code for clock setting posted           [myxm]
Multi-IO card/AMT-ATjr  none of above clock code worked         [darren]
CompuAdd MFC            [myxm]'s clock code worked              [cavender]
CAF multi-IO card       posted(?) clock code                    [megevand]
Quadram Quadboard       clock driver posted                     [bunda]
Alpha Micro Videotrax   board is inimical                       [zemon]


Who's who ?
-----------
[acharya]       acharya@sbcs
[allbery]       allbery@ncoast.uucp
[arthur@u]      arthur@ubu.uucp
[arthur@w]      arthur@warwick.uucp
[ast]           ast@cs.vu.nl
[backstro]      backstro@silver.bacs.indiana.edu
[bc]            bc@njitsc1.uucp
[bdale]         bdale@winfree.uucp
[becker]        becker@humber.bitnet
[bengtb]        bengtb@erix.se
[beugel]        beugel@cs.vu.nl
[broman]        broman@nosc.mil
[bunda]		bunda@cs.utexas.edu
[b_badger]      b_badger@unhh.bitnet
[c0033003]      c0033003@dbstu1.bitnet
[cavender]      cavender@drivax.uucp
[chang]         chang@philtis.uucp
[clark]		clark@ttidca.tti.com
[cline]         cline@pnet01.cts.com
[comberiati]    comberiati@cpesac.uucp
[comp13]        comp13@tjalk.cs.vu.nl
[corley]        corley@cs.rochester.edu
[cs002]         cs002@unocss.uucp
[darren]        darren@ethos.uucp
[darylm]        darylm@illian.uucp
[dcd]           dcd@tc.fluke.com
[dhb]           dhb@bek-mc.caltech.edu
[diamant]       diamant@hpfclp.hp.com
[dlong]         dlong@sdsu.uucp
[dtinker]       dtinker@utoronto.bitnet
[edhall]	edhall@rand.org
[eric]          eric@unmvax.unm.edu
[esc1319]       esc1319@ddaesa10.bitnet
[foster]        foster@beno.css.gov
[ganesh]        ganesh@utah-cs.uucp
[go]            go@orstcs.uucp
[henkp]         henkp@nikhefk.uucp
[hgm]           hgm@lanl.gov
[hubble]        hubble@cae780.uucp
[hysell]	hysell@kodak.uucp
[jallen]        jallen@netxcom.uucp
[jcs]           jcs@chinet.uucp
[jds]           jds@mimsy.umd.edu
[jel]           jel@cheviot.newcastle.ac.uk
[jimj]		jimj@iwtjj.att.com
[johnc]         johnc@mia.uucp
[john]          john@moncol.uucp
[jps]		jps@cup.portal.com
[jss]           jss@sun.com
[kav]           kav@ihlpa.att.com
[ken]           ken@driwash.uucp
[kimery]        kimery@wdl1.uucp
[lindsay]       lindsay@cheviot.newcastle.ac.uk
[m690240]       m692040@sdsu.uucp
[mclean]        mclean@think.com
[megevand]      megevand@cgeuge54.bitnet
[mike]          mike@bnr-vpa.arpa
[myxm]          myxm@lanl.gov
[n0ano]         n0ano@wldrdg.uucp
[ncoverby]      ncoverby@ndsuvax.uucp
[nick]          nick@nswitgould.oz
[nispa]         nispa@hutcs.hut.fi
[paula]         paula@bcsaic.uucp
[pechter]	pechter@dasys1.uucp
[ppuchin]       ppychin@orchid.waterloo.edu
[ptk]           ptk@hutcs.hut.fi
[rj]		rj@cs.glasgow.ac.uk
[rmtodd]        rmtodd@uokmax.uucp
[roskos]	roskos@csed-1.uucp or roskos@dockmaster.arpa
[sas]           sas@bcd-dyn.uucp
[sbanner1]      sbanner1@sol.uvic.cdn
[sheu]          sheu@gitpyr.gatech.edu
[steven]        steven@cwi.nl
[steve]         steve@warwick.uucp
[stuart]        stuart@bms-at.uucp
[subelman]      subelman@ttidca.tti.com
[sullivan]      sullivan@marge.math.binghamton.edu
[tcoram]        tcoram@udcvax.bitnet
[tdavis]        tdavis@enlog.wichita.ncr.com
[tsp]           tsp@killer.uucp
[twaites]       twaites@sicom.uucp
[vanderpol]     vanderpol@amolf.nl
[vizard]        vizard@dartvax
[walker]        walker@xanth.uucp
[wegrzyn]       wegrzyn@cdx39.uucp
[werner]        werner@nikhefk.uucp
[wes]           wes@obie.uucp
[willy]		willy@idca.tds.philips.nl
[wjc]           wjc@eddie.mit.edu
[wtoomey]       wtoomey@gara.une.oz
[y85]           y85.b-jansson@linus.liu.se
[zemon]         zemon@felix.uucp

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        edited by Vincent Broman,         broman@nosc.mil
        reformat and intro, Tamura Jolink, tamura@hlerul5
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Vincent Broman,  code 632, Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA 92152, USA
Phone: +1 619 553 1641    Internet: broman@nosc.mil   Uucp: sdcsvax!nosc!broman
-- 
Glen Overby
ncoverby@plains.nodak.edu	uunet!ndsuvax!ncoverby
ncoverby@ndsuvax (Bitnet)

sehgal@balboa.eng.uci.edu (Rajeev Sehgal) (10/19/88)

I want to be member of the comp.os.unix as I have been reading this net
for a long time and have developed a kind off obsession with this particular
newsgroup.

	I have a question if any body can help me. I want to have an idea
as to how to create a backup file in minix and/or unix.
can email to me or can post on the net too.

Thanks

Rajeev
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Rajeev Sehgal		Dept. of Electrical Engineering
			University of California at Irvine

email address:	sehgal@balboa.eng.uci.edu.UUCP

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