root@relay.eu.net (05/26/90)
>From article <4728@plains.UUCP>, by overby@plains.UUCP (Glen Overby): > In article <19670@nigel.udel.EDU> V2057A%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu (Juan Jose Noyles) writes: >>"Before running MINIX for the first time, make a backup of all the floppy >> disks, to prevent disaster if one of them should be subsequently damaged..." > > if only everyone would read and heed directions like this! > >>How? DOS can't even read it...oh well, maybe its a 1.2Mb diskette. > > I believe you have just found a legitimate use for all those boolegging > programs, like CopyWrite, CopyIIPC and LockSmith! They do a nice job of > copying your Minix disks. I have seen many people copy the Minix disks with > DISKCOPY (and laugh at me telling them that it won't work reliably) so > apparently that works, too. But I still don't recommend it. > > If I recall correctly, the Minix User's Manual also told how to use "cp" to > copy the disks after booting Minix. On top of all these (copyrighted!) programs, I wrote a couple of programs that are meant to be used while installing and using MINIX. Amongst the utilities included are a disk copier, a disk formatter, a decent Fdisk which understands MINIX partitions, a VT103/220 terminal emulator written in machine code (to get it to run at 115Kbps), etc... Should I post this? It is part of the "famous" MUG_MINIX distribution... > >>Well, while I have everyone's attention, where do I get ELM for this thing? > > Same place you get it for Sun OS, 4.3BSD, and just about every other > vendor's sytem (except HP). FROM THE NET! > > Good luck porting it. It's one of those programs that assumes > > sizeof(char *) == sizeof(int) == 32 > > and won't fit nicely inside a pair of Intel-style 64K segments. And, there is W-MAIL. > >>What??? It doesn't have UUCP??? HUHHHHH??????? Are you sure? How in the hell >>am I supposed to communicate? How does everyone else do it?? Please, don't >>let this be true... > > Dunno... I can't find UUCP on my Version 6 PDP 11/23 "warm footstool", > either ;-) I posted UUCP for MINIX a week ago, which is the enhanced and debugged version of Peter Housel's UUPC port. It has transported __many__ mega's of mail, files and news since I installed it. I also posted the new version of my U-MAIL mailer, which could get you into the World Of Small Systems Making Noise! > > [stty sarcasm soapbox ] > > Please take a look at the label on the box you got your operating system out > of. It should say "MINIX", not "UNIX(tm)". The price tag on the box should > also indicate that it is not Unix (a non-academic Unix source license costs > something like $100K, and an academic license is in the $5K range. You [or > your girlfriend] paid considerably less than that. So let's not hear > anymore whining about how Minix is unstable, doesn't include every feature > of Unix, ad nauseaum. OK? We all know about the things Minix doesn't > impliment, like Large Model Intel programs and such. You got the source -- > fix it! > > Minix may not have everything that 4.3BSD does, but it doesn't require a CPU > with paged virtual memory, 4 MB RAM, and a "few" hundred megs of disks space. > > If you decide you don't like Minix, you have every right to dump your book > and disks on some unsuspecting sucker, and go buy the Real Thing. You then > might also want to switch your newsgroup selection from comp.os.minix to > comp.unix.i386. > > [stty -sarcasm] > > Before my modem died an untimely death, I used "term" and "rz/sz" (zmodem) > to shovel bits between home and school. Works pretty good, too! > > Oh, yeah, you can get a couple of different UUCP implimentations for Minix; > one was posted here within the past week, and another can be found on > several archive sites. > > All together now: "Unix is a trademark of AT&T Bell Laboratories > in the US and other countries". "Unix is a trademark of AT&T Bell Laboratories in the US and other countries" I also own Microport V/AT, and I use MINIX instead of it. My 16MHz AT has been in service as a public access MINIX system since december 21, 1988, and it runs like magic with 1.5.10C in protected mode. We all know what 1.3 can and can't do (Glen: brilliant words...). You can upgrade to 1.5.10 and have a good time on a fine OS ! It just takes some more work than bying a box of disks in the store! > -- > Glen Overby <overby@plains.nodak.edu> > uunet!plains!overby (UUCP) overby@plains (Bitnet) Fred van Kempen, MINIX User Group Holland. +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | MINIX User Group Holland UUCP: hp4nl!kyber!waltje | | c/o Fred van Kempen, or: waltje@kyber.uucp | | Hoefbladhof 27 | | 2215 DV VOORHOUT | | The Netherlands "A good programmer knows his Sources" | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+
V2057A%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu (Juan Jose Noyles) (05/27/90)
I want to personally thank Mr. Fred Van Kempen and the MINIX User Group (Holland) for their level of professionalism and devotion to the usability of MINIX. If not for you guys, I would have trashed my copy of MINIX.