CHUQUI@MIT-MC@sri-unix (09/05/82)
From: Charles F. Von Rospach <CHUQUI at MIT-MC> Date: 2 September 1982 21:42-EDT Can anyone answer or point to answers for the following questions: 1> Does anyone know of a good Z80 cross assembler to run on 4.1bsd Vax unix? It should have full macro capability and be robust enough for a commercial environment. 2> Does anyone know of a good, fairly complete BASIC for 4.1bsd Vax unix? Everything seems to generate for PDP11 or 68K. Cbasic compatible is prefered, followed by MBASIC or BASIC+. 3> Does anyone have any documenation on 'compat'? All I can find out about it is that it emulates PDP11 V7 Unix so you can run Zork. Is this correct? Is it robust enough to handle something like a CBASIC interpreter for PDP11, or are we in for trouble? Where can I get detailed info on compat? thanks in advance, chuck chuqui at mit-mc
mo@LBL-UNIX@sri-unix (09/06/82)
From: mo at LBL-UNIX (Mike O'Dell [system]) Date: 3 Sep 1982 09:06:58-PDT I can't tell you about Basic interpreters, but I can tell you about the compat stuff. While it isn't really documented, it is solid, at least, solid enough to run the PDP-11 C compiler, assembler, loader, and other development tools on a routine basis. Almost all the sites running the Greep ARPAnet front-end do the construction work on Vaxes and download into various 11-style machines. The only problem you might have is I don't think it does floating point very well or at all (either case probably implies a user-mode emulator with attendant performance problems). So for the part that I use, it seems solid, but don't be surprised if it gets poorer reviews running Basic. There was a Basic done by Bill Webb at the U of British Columbia Biology Lab which was compatible with various micro Basic's (most notably Microsoft, I think) via a switch which specified particular collections of misfeatures. I thought Bill was going to put it on a Usenix tape, and who knows, maybe he did! You can probably get in touch with Bill and find out. As for other Basics, has noone EVER implemented one in C?? I in fact gave it some thought and just to show my forward-thinking, I looked at the new Standard Basic. My Goodness, the little munchkins on that committee were busy. Another "inclusive-or" language. Sigh.... Hope this helps, -Mike
CHUQUI@MIT-MC@sri-unix (09/08/82)
From: Charles F. Von Rospach <CHUQUI at MIT-MC> Date: 5 September 1982 02:09-EDT I have been given a premliminary pointer to a basic somewhere at santa cruz, but no contacts or anything. Can anyone add detail to this, or is this a wild goose chase? Is it available for use in a commercial system? (for those that missed my previous note, I am in need of a robust basic for 4.1bsd Vax unix). thanks, chuck (chuqui at mit-mc)
FC01@USC-ECL@sri-unix (09/08/82)
From: FC01 <FC01 at USC-ECL> Date: 5 Sep 1982 1242-PDT Art Wetzel was from U. of Pittsburgh, not C-MU Get the facts straight -------