[comp.os.minix] MINIX 1.5 PC = AT

ast@cs.vu.nl (Andy Tanenbaum) (09/10/90)

I have been asked to explicitly answer the question of what happened to
the PC and AT versions.

The old scheme (640K for PC and 512K for AT) led to endless problems.
People constantly got the wrong version.  I solved it in a crude way:
The 5.25" set has 3 boot disks (PC, AT, and BIOS).  The 3.5" has those
three and one more (for those PS/2s with an ST506 controller).

Thus there is no longer a PC set and an AT set.  One size fits all.
(The downside of this is that with 17 disks and a 700 page manual, PH
had to raise the price; the manufacturing cost is simply much higher
than with the 1.3 slipcase version at $116 or the 1.1 disk-only version at
$80.)

To answer a not-yet asked question, PH is not going to bring out any other
variants (disk without manual, manual with disks, other sizes, formats, etc.).
Let's see if they can get this one right.

Andy Tanenbaum (ast@cs.vu.nl)

P.S. They are shipping 1.5 as of last week.

mitchell (Bill Mitchell) (09/10/90)

In article <7487@star.cs.vu.nl> ast@cs.vu.nl (Andy Tanenbaum) writes:
>
> (stuff deleted)
>(The downside of this is that with 17 disks and a 700 page manual, PH
>had to raise the price; the manufacturing cost is simply much higher
>than with the 1.3 slipcase version at $116 or the 1.1 disk-only version at
>$80.)

I'll have to order this sight-unseen.  I have the textbook and the
1.3 slipcase manual.  Would it make sense for me to order 1.5 with
the manual, or would it be a waste of money?  I remember being
disappointed to find that the 1.3 slipcase manual was for a pre-1.3
release.

There was some talk about a discount for 1.3 -> 1.5 upgrades.  What's
the situation with that?

rvdp@cs.vu.nl (Ronald van der Pol) (09/11/90)

ast@cs.vu.nl (Andy Tanenbaum) writes:


| The old scheme (640K for PC and 512K for AT) led to endless problems.
| People constantly got the wrong version.  I solved it in a crude way:
| The 5.25" set has 3 boot disks (PC, AT, and BIOS).  The 3.5" has those
| three and one more (for those PS/2s with an ST506 controller).
	Now you will probably get ST, amiga or MAC disks...
| Let's see if they can get this one right.
	Never mind. Just put the ST, amiga, MAC and PC versions in one 
	package and increase the price...

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		Ronald van der Pol  <rvdp@cs.vu.nl>

ast@cs.vu.nl (Andy Tanenbaum) (09/11/90)

In article <1990Sep10.133812.1935@mdivax1.uucp> mdivax1!bb29c!mitchell (Bill Mitchell) writes:
>Would it make sense for me to order 1.5 with
>the [old i.e. 1.3] manual
No.  1.5 is self-contained.  It needs no other manual.  Everything you
need to know about installing it is in  the box.  It is beginning to look
like normal software.  The manual in the box does not tell about how the
code works.  There is no description of how 1.5 works.  Someday I will
rewrite the book.   First POSIX.
>
>There was some talk about a discount for 1.3 -> 1.5 upgrades.  What's
>the situation with that?
The discount is $60 if you send back your boot disk label.  That was in
my announcement.

Once again, to avoid confusion, 1.5 from PH is identical to 1.5.10 from the
net.  If you have installed that, the only reason you might want 1.5 is
to get the man pages and code listing all nicely typeset.  The man pages
have been edited to make them editorially cleaner, but there have not been
any major changes since what appeared on the net (no, I can't post them again;
PH would strangle me).

Andy Tanenbaum (ast@cs.vu.nl)

ast@cs.vu.nl (Andy Tanenbaum) (09/11/90)

In article <7505@star.cs.vu.nl> rvdp@cs.vu.nl (Ronald van der Pol) writes:
>	Now you will probably get ST, amiga or MAC disks...

I believe the boxes are printed in different colors.  If they can tell green
from blue, we're ok.

Andy Tanenbaum (ast@cs.vu.nl)

jpc@fctunl.rccn.pt (Jose Pina Coelho) (09/17/90)

In article <7512@star.cs.vu.nl> ast@cs.vu.nl (Andy Tanenbaum) writes:
 >   In article <7505@star.cs.vu.nl> rvdp@cs.vu.nl (Ronald van der Pol) writes:
 >   >	Now you will probably get ST, amiga or MAC disks...
 >
 >  I believe the boxes are printed in different colors.  If they can tell green
 >  from blue, we're ok.

We're in DEEP trouble.


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// Pina

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