mpledger@cti1.UUCP (Mark Pledger) (10/26/90)
I currently have the older version of minix and am thinking of upgrading to either the new version of minix or coherent. As the subject line states, is there anyone who has used the new version of minix? I am interested in being able to hook email (on minix) up to another feeder node to get email and usenet info. Thanks in advance, and I will summarize if anyone is interested. -- Sincerely, Mark Pledger -------------------------------------------------------------------------- CTI | (703) 685-5434 [voice] 2121 Crystal Drive | (703) 685-7022 [fax] Suite 103 | Arlington, DC 22202 | mpledger@cti.com --------------------------------------------------------------------------
tgcpwd@rwc.urc.tue.nl (Wim van Dorst) (10/27/90)
In article <303@cti1.UUCP> mpledger@cti1.UUCP (Mark Pledger) writes: >As the subject line states, is there anyone who has used the new version >of minix? I am interested in being able to hook email (on minix) up to >another feeder node to get email and usenet info. I would reckon at least half of the 25,000 readers of this newsgroup, well at least the Intel users, have the new (what is new, is half a year old) minix 1.5.10 up and running. For the record: I do. I am now waiting for the next release (1.6.something as Prof. T. told us recently) Furthermore I have mail and news running and connected to the outer world. To prove it mail me at baron@wiesje.hobby.nl and I will reply, using that mail. Soon a news item will show up by my hand too (on Emacs .ellepro.e with the use of arrow keys). Met vriendelijke groeten, -b-b- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Blue Baron = Wim van Dorst, Voice (+31) 074-443937, (+31) 02152-42319 (-: baron@wiesje.hobby.nl tgcpwd@urc.tue.nl :-) --------------------------------------------------------------------- -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Blue Baron = Wim van Dorst, Voice (+31) 074-443937, (+31) 02152-42319 (-: baron@wiesje.hobby.nl tgcpwd@urc.tue.nl :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------------
anderson@udder.macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) (10/27/90)
In article <193@rc6.urc.tue.nl> tgcpwd@urc.tue.nl writes: >I would reckon at least half of the 25,000 readers of this newsgroup, well >at least the Intel users, have the new (what is new, is half a year old) >minix 1.5.10 up and running. Alas, I am one of the other half. I sent in my 1.3 boot disk label and a check for $109 on September 14. I'm still waiting, and I'm beginning to be pissed. If you asked later and already have yours, I'd like to hear about it (AT version). -- Jess Anderson Madison Academic Computing Center University of Wisconsin Work: Rm. 3130, 1210 West Dayton St., Madison WI 53706, Ph. 608/262-5888 Home: 2838 Stevens St., 53705, 608/238-4833 Bitnet: anderson@wiscmacc Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson
hp@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Peter Holzer) (10/30/90)
anderson@udder.macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes: >Alas, I am one of the other half. I sent in my 1.3 boot disk >label and a check for $109 on September 14. I'm still waiting, >and I'm beginning to be pissed. If you asked later and already >have yours, I'd like to hear about it (AT version). The day of joy might be near :-). I ordered mine on September 12th and it arrived last Thursday (Oct 25th). Curiously enough, about a week before that I received a note from PH telling me that this product is not yet available. While playing around with it I found a few bugs, however: Ps doesn't work at first, because /etc/pstable is missing. To create it, /usr/src/kernel/kernel, /usr/src/mm/mm and /usr/src/fs/fs must be made first. It also works only for root as normal users cannot read /dev/kmem. Setting the suid bit solves this problem. The times(2) call always returns zero. The POSIX standard says about times: RETURN VALUE: On success times returns the elapsed time sinc an arbitrary point in the past (e.g. system startup time) in CLK_TCKs of a second. This point does not change between two invocations. and all impementations I've seen (PC/IX, Ultrix, ix/386) do it that way. I will fix this and post the diffs to fs (What the heck does times have to do with the file system ? IMHO this belongs into mm). Not a necessarily a bug, but a portability problem: S_IREAD and S_IWRITE (defined under Minix 1.3, most (all?) Unices, MS_DOS, ..., not in POSIX, however) are no longer defined in sys/stat.h. They should be defined as S_IWUSR and S_IRUSR resp. inside a #ifndef _POSIX_SOURCE. Elvis dies every now and then with the message `Alarm clock' and leaves the terminal in raw mode. The sequence `stty default^Jvirecover' is already hardwired into my fingers after one weekend :-(. The keyboard driver has an ugly `feature': It uses codes 0200 .. 0205 for the shift type keys. Unfortunately one German umlaut lies in this range so I cannot easily make myself a German keyboard. When (if) I have time I will change the driver so that it won't use shift codes inside the IBM-ASCII range 0 .. 0377. Otherwise I am quite pleased with Minix. Regards, Peter. -- | _ | Peter J. Holzer | Think of it | | |_|_) | Technical University Vienna | as evolution | | | | | Dept. for Real-Time Systems | in action! | | __/ | hp@vmars.tuwien.ac.at | Tony Rand |
evans@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (Bruce.Evans) (11/05/90)
In article <1932@tuvie> hp@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Peter Holzer) writes: >Ps ... also works only for root >as normal users cannot read /dev/kmem. Setting the suid bit >solves this problem. Normal users cannot set the setuid bit for system binaries either :-). I changed /dev/kmem, not ps. >The times(2) call always returns zero. The POSIX standard says It has never "worked" on Minix. My V7 manual doesn't say what it returns. I have seen it cause a few core dumps from division by zero. >that way. I will fix this and post the diffs to fs (What the Implement the ANSI clock() while you are about it. Note that the kernel sources are a bit confused about clock_t vs time_t. >Not a necessarily a bug, but a portability problem: >S_IREAD and S_IWRITE (defined under Minix 1.3, most (all?) >Unices, MS_DOS, ..., not in POSIX, however) are no longer >defined in sys/stat.h. >They should be defined as S_IWUSR and S_IRUSR resp. inside >a #ifndef _POSIX_SOURCE. This is definitely not a bug, but it is one of many portability problems caused by Minix having nearly ANSI/POSIX-conformant headers while few programs are written for POSIX. The problems are a little worse than they need to be since old Unix features such as S_IREAD are frowned upon. POSIX features are not allowed in ANSI headers such as <limits.h>, so in practice you always have to define _POSIX_SOURCE to get them, and #ifndef _POSIX_SOURCE is not useful. >Elvis dies every now and then with the message `Alarm clock' and >leaves the terminal in raw mode. The sequence `stty This seems to be a common problem. It may only be in the old version of elvis. -- Bruce Evans evans@syd.dit.csiro.au