nall@sun8.scri.fsu.edu (John Nall) (11/29/90)
Up until this point, I've done all my file transfers to/from Minix by taking the easy way out - use DOS for file transfers, and then use dosread/doswrite to transfer data to/from Minix itself. The time has probably come now to get DOS out of the loop. I know there are several choices: (a) kermit (b) zmodem (c) uucp, (d) ?. Of course, I'd *really* like to use ftp, but we can't always have our ruthers :-) So, within what is available, is there any sort of general concensus as to what is best? Since I've never had any interest in this before, I haven't paid much attention to what was said on the net about it. (As someone within another group put it so well: "the current is always flowing in the river, but one is not usually thirsty....") Since this may be of general interest (is it?) if anyone who has some input can e-mail me, I will summarize for the net. (Yes, I really will summarize!) The term "best" should be defined as solid, well-documented, easy to use, fast, in that order. -- John W. Nall | Supercomputation Computations Research Institute nall@sun8.scri.fsu.edu | Florida State University, Tallahassee, FL 32306 WB4LOQ (why? I dunno....everyone else seems to be doing it. _._)
awb@uk.ac.ed.aipna (Alan W Black) (11/30/90)
In article <1483@sun13.scri.fsu.edu>, nall@sun8.scri.fsu.edu (John Nall) writes: |>Up until this point, I've done all my file transfers to/from Minix |>by taking the easy way out - use DOS for file transfers, and then |>use dosread/doswrite to transfer data to/from Minix itself. |> |>The time has probably come now to get DOS out of the loop. I know |>there are several choices: (a) kermit (b) zmodem (c) uucp, (d) ?. |>Of course, I'd *really* like to use ftp, but we can't always have our |>ruthers :-) |> |>So, within what is available, is there any sort of general concensus |>as to what is best? Since I've never had any interest in this before, |>I haven't paid much attention to what was said on the net about it. |>(As someone within another group put it so well: "the current is always |>flowing in the river, but one is not usually thirsty....") |> |>Since this may be of general interest (is it?) if anyone who has some |>input can e-mail me, I will summarize for the net. (Yes, I really will |>summarize!) The term "best" should be defined as solid, well-documented, |>easy to use, fast, in that order. |> |> |> |> |>-- |>John W. Nall | Supercomputation Computations Research Institute |>nall@sun8.scri.fsu.edu | Florida State University, Tallahassee, FL 32306 |> WB4LOQ (why? I dunno....everyone else seems to be doing it. _._) I understand the problem. When I first started using minix I had to use about four machines to do the transfer. Copy the file to a sun in another institute. Use their machine to ftp to MSDOS, use another machine to change to 3.5" disks, then back to my own and use tos to read it (that's on my Atari). Only to discover I forgot to set binary on the ftp :-( Now I have a terminal link from my atari and use the term.c (from Felix Croes (croes@fwi.uva.nl) which has get and put using zmodem builtin. This is easy to use and can transfer binary files. This does mean I had to compile the zmodem stuff on the Sin I am connected to, but that's no problem. I have never used kermit and feel that my life is probably better without it :-) I also have a 386 machine at home which is not connected to any of our machines at work (use a modem ? across British Telecom telecom ? I think that would be very unreliable). To transfer stuff to and from that machine and also my atari (when its large), is to use a Sun Sparcstation floppy. There are two ways to do this. First you can use Richard Tobin's nsf mounter for Minix disks. It allows you to simply mount a minix disk on a sparcstation. Its great but you need to be root to mount the disk and I don't have any root passwd's to machines with floppy drives. The second and I think easiest is to simple tar stuff onto the floppy such as tar cvf /dev/rfd0 minix-stuff And take the disk home extracting it with tar xv /dev/floppy I used to use the minix tar programs to do the taring on the sun but have found it unnecessary -- though I avoid having symbolic links in the directory I'm transfering. Alan Alan W Black 80 South Bridge, Edinburgh, UK Dept of Artificial Intelligence tel: (+44) -31 225 7774 x228 or x223 University of Edinburgh email: awb@ed.ac.uk